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Bob
08-30-2009, 10:56 PM
Let's make this the official Sons of Anarchy thread!

Sons of Anarchy Countdown (http://www.7is7.com/otto/countdown.html?year=2009&month=09&date=08&hrs=22&ts=12&min=0&sec=0&tz=local&lang=en&show=dhms&mode=t&cdir=down&bgcolor=%23ffffff&fgcolor=%23000000&title=Sons%20of%20Anarchy%20Countdown)

Berto
08-31-2009, 12:00 AM
Oh yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can't wait!!!!!!

Fishman
08-31-2009, 02:47 PM
Yep Marked Sept 8th on my calender a long time ago..

Bob
08-31-2009, 06:21 PM
Sucks the reruns are on so late.

Berto
09-01-2009, 10:18 AM
DVR baby... DVR.

telecast
09-07-2009, 01:18 PM
We've stayed up and watched the last 6 episodes (I'm guessing half the season?) over the last few weekends. It didn't take too long to figure out what was going on, but it would've been better if we started from the first one.

The first episode we saw was with the Nazi guy who tried to have Clay killed, up to the season finale last night. Saturday was the worst, up until 2:30 am. I guess we're pretty much up to speed for the new season tomorrow.

My wife is sucked in. She's thoroughly pissed off that they killed Donna. I'm having a hard time getting past Peg Bundy and Hellboy. I'd rather they picked lesser-knowns for those roles. Although, they're both doing a good job. Jemma (sp) is the ultimate controlling, manipulative bitch. She's more 1%'er than any of the guys in the club!

Bob
09-07-2009, 01:22 PM
I can't wait!

I wish HBO's "1%" would of been able to be made.

Fishman
09-07-2009, 06:20 PM
I will parked in front of my TV...

Bob
09-08-2009, 07:54 PM
3 more hours!

telecast
09-08-2009, 08:35 PM
Dude, you got it bad!

Want me to come over and do a donut in your yard or something? Maybe blow up your mailbox with a cherry bomb? It'll only add to the realism!

Fishman
09-08-2009, 08:36 PM
Something--SAMCRO has the best music on TV...

telecast
09-08-2009, 08:43 PM
And they got Hellboy.

Fishman
09-08-2009, 09:39 PM
He sure was blessed with one ugly face...

Berto
09-08-2009, 10:27 PM
haha... poor Ron Pearlman, but he is famous.

33 minutes and counting.

Bob
09-22-2009, 06:24 PM
4.5 hours!
Watched last weeks in the hospital on their little tv with the speaker built into the tv controller. LOL

telecast
09-22-2009, 07:57 PM
I've been catching up on last season. Saw 1, 2 then the last 6. I missed last week but caught it on a late rerun.

QUESTION: How long do we have to wait before talking about the epsiode so we don't ruin it for someone? One week? Two?

I think this thread should have a disclaimer in the title:

WARNING! Episode discussion inside. If you don't want to know, don't look!

Then those who've seen it can discuss openly.

Bob
09-22-2009, 08:02 PM
I've been catching up on last season. Saw 1, 2 then the last 6. I missed last week but caught it on a late rerun.

QUESTION: How long do we have to wait before talking about the epsiode so we don't ruin it for someone? One week? Two?

I think this thread should have a disclaimer in the title:

WARNING! Episode discussion inside. If you don't want to know, don't look!

Then those who've seen it can discuss openly.

I say right when it's over or even during for those of you that are on your pc while you watch tv. LOL If someone doesn't want a spoiler they'd better watch it first before coming into this thread! ;)

Berto
09-22-2009, 10:46 PM
Haha ... I do not go on the sites until after I see the episode. I DVR them a lot.

Gas Man
09-22-2009, 11:08 PM
Yeah it generally takes me a couple days to watch it off the dvr.

telecast
09-23-2009, 08:39 AM
Ok.

Last night's episode was...eh. The best part was the fight between Clay and Jemma.

And what's with Jemma all of a sudden helping Tara get on board with Jacks? Is she softening, or does she have something up her sleeve?

I eagerly await the day the club finds out about Jemma's rape. For now it looks like their war with the WS will be confined to 'business'.

Lastly, I can't stand that idiot who plays the cigar store owner. Can't recall his name and don't care enough to find out, he was Chicago Hope's answer to George Clooney back when it was competing with ER.

Berto
09-23-2009, 10:21 AM
I thought it was a great episode. It's a set up episode. You can't have intense things in EVERY episode. It's a classic set up. The season opener was good, the second had the rape... a hook episode to capture those new viewers and now the show slows down a bit to not burn all the good moments.

Tara is getting helped, i think, because Jemma can see that she will be the old lady soon. You saw her in the last scene. She can make things happen without trying too hard... that smirk was priceless.

The Clay/Jemma/Rape thing will blow up... you know it will... but that's a mid season to end of season blow up.

I can see a few of the story lines already... they are being a little obvious with the twists and turns...

But yeah, i was expecting a set up episode like we got.

Good times still and great show!

RedneckMedic
09-23-2009, 01:24 PM
i get excited for it every week. what i am looking to see is what hale ends up doing. it looks like him and jax have an understanding then he goes and sides with the arians.

telecast
09-23-2009, 04:14 PM
I don't think Hale and Jacks will ever have an understanding, more like they tolerate each other when necessary. Hale is torn between keeping the town clean of drugs and wanting SAMCRO gone. What he isn't getting is that once the WS rid the town of the MC, they'll be in charge and will do whatever they want with the cops, and no symbiotic relationship like the PD has with SAMCRO. I expect he'll realize that eventually, probably late in the season.

vortech302
09-23-2009, 07:52 PM
Next week is going to be sweet is all I know. Incidentally, in the past couple weeks I read "Under and Alone" and "Honor Few Respect None". The first one was written by the ATF agent that went undercover into the Mongols MC, and the second one is written by the Mongols President. Under and Alone was pretty good, and HFRN brings up some good points about MC's and is a quick read, but overall there are some contradictions.

Gas Man
09-23-2009, 10:05 PM
Just watched it. Great episode. Love the show.

zamochit
09-23-2009, 11:28 PM
Jax already sees through Hale. Remember he answered the call from Hale and called his bluff and went and blew up the meth house. I'm hoping they can drag this show out for a few more series.

telecast
09-30-2009, 08:32 AM
"Well I didn't shoot her."

Funniest line from last night.

Good episode. Piney was on his game. The truck through the wall has been part of their trailer since before the new season, I always figured it was the WS they were crashing in on.

What's the deal with Opie? Is he doing a false alliance thing with Clay to gain his trust and help Jacks, or has Donna's murder changed him that much?

Berto
09-30-2009, 11:56 AM
AWESOME episode... things will progressively get more and more tense.

Opie lost his family, so now he is looking to replace it quick and the club is it. Since he does not know that the club is responsible for Donna's death he is going to the only thing he knows.

Jax and Clay are about to blow up... but bet you Jax cools off after the comment Clay made to him and with Opie now siding with Clay. It looks like Piney and Jax on one corner and Clay, Tig and now Opie in another. It will be interesting.

I think next week it will be time to focus on the WS group and we'll see things cool down a bit between the club leaders. Also the Jemma thing has to come out soon... and heads will roll.

Bob
09-30-2009, 01:10 PM
I think the Gemma thing will be taken care of by the Chief and deputy chief.

Gas Man
10-02-2009, 11:18 AM
F u guys... I have not watched it yet as I'm in PA. Its at home on my dvr


grrrr

telecast
10-02-2009, 12:49 PM
QUESTION: How long do we have to wait before talking about the epsiode so we don't ruin it for someone? One week? Two?


I say right when it's over or even during for those of you that are on your pc while you watch tv. LOL If someone doesn't want a spoiler they'd better watch it first before coming into this thread! ;)


Yeah it generally takes me a couple days to watch it off the dvr.


F u guys... I have not watched it yet as I'm in PA. Its at home on my dvr

grrrr

Well, you can't say you weren't warned!

vortech302
10-02-2009, 05:16 PM
F u guys... I have not watched it yet as I'm in PA. Its at home on my dvr


grrrr

Man, who would've thought that the Doc and the police chief were gettin it on, crazy. Oops.

RedneckMedic
10-03-2009, 01:34 AM
^^^^^^nice ^^^^^^^^

cant blame him though

Berto
10-03-2009, 01:29 PM
Well, I was pretty shocked when they showed Jemma and Tara making out and the Tara's full frontal... Those were nice!

Bob
10-03-2009, 06:12 PM
Did you guys see the preview for next week? Berto makes his acting debut and it looks like he's playing Tig's boyfriend! Congrats dude!

vortech302
10-03-2009, 09:21 PM
Congrats Berto. Now is next week the episode where Clay gets in a fight with Al Bundy?

Bob
10-03-2009, 09:26 PM
Congrats Berto. Now is next week the episode where Clay gets in a fight with Al Bundy?

Baaaaaaahahahahahaha!

Gas Man
10-06-2009, 08:52 AM
YOu guys are startin to piss me off... stop it... I haven't watched the episode yet... you bastards! :D

telecast
10-06-2009, 09:05 AM
YOu guys are startin to piss me off

Just starting? Then we ain't trying hard enough!

Gas Man
10-06-2009, 09:16 AM
MotherF'ers!!

LOL!

Bob
10-06-2009, 10:51 PM
10 more minutes!

RedneckMedic
10-06-2009, 11:30 PM
i have to wait till the girl gets done with the hills then watch it dvr this sucks

Gas Man
10-07-2009, 08:57 AM
shit i still haven't got to last weeks. Damn dvr is PACKED

vortech302
10-07-2009, 09:45 AM
Finally some gratuitous violence next week.

Berto
10-07-2009, 10:17 AM
Oh yeah... awesome episode... Next week, whitey lover is going down!!!

And I can't wait for Jemma to run into that DBs daughter and shoot her a few times.

Chibs better make it... i think he does since the first teaser line was "he tried to kill two of our members in the last week"... key word... tried... the axe is coming down and the reaper will cause some havoc.

telecast
10-14-2009, 01:31 PM
... the axe is coming down and the reaper will cause some havoc.

SUCKER! They pulled you in!

Clay and his dinosaur mentality put the club EXACTLY where Zobel wanted them. It's been a setup since day one, plenty of closed circuit cameras and more than enough antagonizing. He even alluded to another town and another bike club they took care of in the same manner.

The closed circuit coverage of the incident at the prayer meeting will damn the club members, all but Jax. They'll see the video of him trying to stop Clay and he'll get off somehow. Once he's on the outside he'll set about trying to get the others free.

POSSIBILITY: The WS's will edit the tape so no one sees the guy behind the podium shooting first. Once the tape is edited someone will get wise and the whole thing will be thrown out due to evidence tampering.

Funniest part of the show:
Tara checking her gun in the direction of the porn star!

vortech302
10-14-2009, 03:13 PM
It's the new Prison Break

Bob
10-14-2009, 06:01 PM
Not the brightest club huh?

RedneckMedic
10-14-2009, 09:13 PM
i agree with tele on what will happen next and yes that seen with tara was great and so was the little WS kid.

Gas Man
10-14-2009, 10:16 PM
I didn't like this weeks episode...

Bob
10-14-2009, 10:21 PM
I'd like to know how Opie crashed like he did and was able to ride back un harmed. Maybe he had on some Icon armor under his clothes?

Gas Man
10-14-2009, 10:48 PM
or how is bike wasn't completely JACKED

RedneckMedic
10-21-2009, 12:23 AM
great episode im lovin it

Gas Man
10-21-2009, 08:59 AM
On the DVR

zamochit
10-21-2009, 09:59 PM
I didn't care much for this last show, the fight scene was terrible.

Bob
10-21-2009, 10:08 PM
I didn't care much for this last show, the fight scene was terrible.

It was like watching a wwf fight I thought. At one pint you could clearly see Clay punching his own arm so he would not really hit Jax in the head. LOL

vortech302
10-22-2009, 01:20 AM
I didn't care much for this last show, the fight scene was terrible.

Jax via rear naked choke? Except Clay had the arm in

Berto
10-22-2009, 08:31 AM
Man, tough crowd! I though the episode was good... Really good actually. It will be interesting to see where this goes. The separation between the club and Jax is bigger now and Clay knows that the popo know about Donna. You know that will come out at some point in the future.

Tara has become a little Jemma.

telecast
10-22-2009, 12:29 PM
They're losing me. After watching the first season, which kind of flowed and felt natural, this one feels too contrived. It's getting easier to guess what's going to happen next. In the previous season there were several story lines going at once, Jax's kid, the Tara thing, the Wendy thing, and the club had several issues. This year it's all about the WS and club. From Jemma's rape to the most recent events. I hope it gets better pretty quickly.

The one refreshing aspect is that cute little sweet innocent Tara is starting to show her bad-ass biker chick side.

vortech302
10-28-2009, 09:32 AM
That was alot of crazy stuff packed into one episode. From the previews, are they going to make it look like Jax killed Donna?

Bob
10-28-2009, 12:03 PM
That was alot of crazy stuff packed into one episode. From the previews, are they going to make it look like Jax killed Donna?
I missed the previews. :(

RedneckMedic
10-28-2009, 12:30 PM
its always hard to tell stuff from there previews but i love how bobby was saying "you have to bang the porn star" however pretty fucked up they killed luanne

telecast
10-28-2009, 03:05 PM
The funniest part was when jack-off guy poked the porn king's henchman in the eye. Another was Halfsack showing off his new nut.

This episode was better. The Luan thing completely threw me for a loop, never expected that.

One thing that's really starting to get to me is the club constantly coming out on the short end of the stick. I mean, these guys are supposed to be the town heroes, in a black, evil kind of way. I know they have to make things darkest before the dawn, but c'mon, let 'em win one.

The predictability definitely took a better turn this week. I didn't think Tom Arnold's character had the 'nads to go up against the club, and I'm still not sure he did. The writers want to you think they did it, but was it really, or was this another outside force?

And what's up with the Niners and Mayans? Eventually I expect both groups to figure out what Zobel is all about, then they'll have to join forces with Samcro to get rid of him.

At least this week's episode provoked some thought, much better.

vortech302
10-31-2009, 11:20 PM
The funniest part was when jack-off guy poked the porn king's henchman in the eye.

Usually I chuckle, but I actually laughed out loud when that happened

Berto
11-02-2009, 12:57 PM
I can't say this enough... I love this show!!!

SamCro not winning one is to show that as long as the divide keeps up and they are going against whitey, it will be an uphill battle.

But things will clear up... and I think Luanne is going to be the start of change. Also, they will lose their Irish gun source... he's poking Zobel's daughters Vag... and there is nothing stronger than pusoi hair...

Berto
11-04-2009, 12:10 PM
Last night... SICK!!! Oh man... this show is getting intense and Zobel is really messing with Samcro... I bet everything goes back to him... I am curious to see if Harvey is dead and one finger jerkie... they didn't show that... but next week we'll be able to tell.

90 minute special next week... OH YEAH!

telecast
11-04-2009, 12:19 PM
I am curious to see if Harvey is dead and one finger jerkie... they didn't show that... but next week we'll be able to tell.


He ain't dead, that's how Jax will find out it wasn't Clay, but not til after he blows a nut and runs off to be a nomad.

Still no answer on who killed Luan. I'm leaning toward Zobel, still don't think Georgie has the 'nads.

Here's something regarding Opie and what's-her-name, Lana?

I think we could all do a porn star, no problem. The question is, could you try and have a relationship with one, as your wife/girlfriend?

I don't think I could deal with it.

RedneckMedic
11-04-2009, 12:39 PM
not at all ya maybe mess around for a min and get my rocks off but no way in in hell i could have a relationship with one especially if i had kids in the mix.

cant wait for that show next week.

Gas Man
11-04-2009, 04:18 PM
I freakin hate this show now. I'm so f'in hooked its not funny. These last 2 episodes have been killer!

vortech302
11-04-2009, 06:22 PM
I'm agreeing with Tele, I think the accountant pulled him out of the fire somehow. And I'm pretty hyped up about the 90 minutes.

And dating strippers, maybe the third time will be a charm for me.

zamochit
11-04-2009, 07:38 PM
A 90 minute show is what we been needing, hopefully it will clear the air on all thats been going on.

I don't think Opie can handle a porn star. His heads not in the right place and think he will be to jealous to see his old lady getting tagged by a couple guys.


Conspiracy theory: Opie Kills Jax protecting Clay and the Club?

telecast
11-04-2009, 08:18 PM
Conspiracy theory: Opie Kills Jax protecting Clay and the Club?

Only if it's the very last episode. In case you missed it, Jax is the main character and a draw for the ladies to watch the show. He ain't going anywhere.

Bob
11-04-2009, 09:14 PM
Only if it's the very last episode. In case you missed it, Jax is the main character and a draw for the ladies to watch the show. He ain't going anywhere.

Yeah, that'd be like killing off Tony on The Sopranos.

I have a feeling they had some sort of security or some sort of live cams in that porn house and maybe they'll be able to go back to those to see who started the fire. Or that finger dude is still alive. Or everyone is dead and clay becomes a Nomad. LOL

I really like the show but it's almost like there it too much action and too much drama at once. Especially for a small club in a small little town like Charming. It's like it's always something. 4 people die per episode, 2 cars blow up, 10 buildings burn, everyone shoots at someone or something. But I know that is how they get ratings. David Chase used to get ridiculed for not having more action in The Sopranos and he always said he was doing his best to make it a real life mob family and not an action movie. He'd say how mobsters aren't killing people every day. LOL

zamochit
11-05-2009, 08:27 PM
Your right Bob they could have drawn out the show for a few years with all the drama they have in one show.

Bob
11-06-2009, 09:26 PM
I'm watching FX right now and they are advertising the crap out of next weeks show. It's going to be 90 minutes!

telecast
11-11-2009, 08:57 AM
Well, that was an extra 5 minutes of show and 25 minutes of commercial. The episode was dissapointing after all the hype.

Halfsack's sack: He complained early in the show about his balls still being swollen and even getting worse. After he eats the shroom he ends up sitting in the mud pit, which has a sign that says healing mud. The last shot shows him scrubbing the mud all over. One of two things will happen here. Either he's going to get a nasty infection, or his nuts will heal and the mud pit will become some new business venture for the club.

Jemma finally gives up the info just to keep Jax from becoming a nomad. Dumb, dumb, dumb. What's better, having him ride out on his own or ending up dead or in prison for murder? She knows how much surveliance follows Zobel around.

It's starting to appear like next week may be the last show before the holiday break. Maybe they'll solve the Zobel issue in short order and come up with some new crisis for the second half of the season. I hope so, it's getting old, fast.

Gas Man
11-11-2009, 11:04 AM
I liked the episode. And I will say that they use less commercials than most other shows. Of coarse I don't watch commercials anyway with the dvr.

I liked how this episode I think they are setting the ground work to clean up things. There were just too many skillets in the fire.

I think Jax will come back out of nomad. They will change the vote or something. Remember Gemma knew what she was doing and what will happen. That is why she asked Uncer to help the club.

I simply love this show... thru and thru.

RedneckMedic
11-11-2009, 11:13 AM
we know jax is back who took his patches back and the previews for the next show have them back on the vest. and definitely the dvr is a plus it took and hour to watch the show so that means about a half hour of commercials so i dont think thats too bad.

telecast
11-11-2009, 12:33 PM
I think Jax will come back out of nomad. They will change the vote or something. Remember Gemma knew what she was doing and what will happen.

All the vote did was 'allow' Jax to leave, it was still his choice whether to go or not.

Jemma isn't thinking straight. Of course she knows what'll happen, but if all it took was to ask Unser to protect the club she'd have done it a long time ago. She's so worried about losing Jax to the road that she'd rather see all hell break loose. The club hasn't been able to pull off one single thing against Zobel without getting caught, so any action would have to be planned carefully. She knows how Clay reacts, so it'd be natrual for her to expect another bull in a china shop scenario.

Jax is a much bigger replacement for his Dad than Clay is in Jemma's life. Clay provides sex, that's about it. Without him, she'd still be doing okay money-wise, and she'd still be the club's grand matron.

And, we still haven't heard anything about-jack off guy, Darby, or who killed Luan.

vortech302
11-11-2009, 10:38 PM
I didn't think the episode was all that good until the end. And I have to admit, I shed a tear.

Gas Man
11-11-2009, 10:53 PM
And we haven't heard about the dead nazi in the fire

telecast
11-12-2009, 08:30 AM
That's Darby.

Bob
11-12-2009, 09:16 AM
And we haven't heard about the dead nazi in the fire

Or the 2 finger accountant dude.

I honestly think this episode had WAY too many commercials in it. I wish this would of been on HBO like Sopranos. Maybe HBO will get the go ahead on their show "1%" soon.

But I do like SOA.

vortech302
11-20-2009, 11:35 AM
Man, the first 20 minutes were insane. I'm kinda bummed that there's only 2 episodes left. But I guess I've been spoiled: Rescue Me, SOA, then 24 in January. Oh, and I'm predicting someone from SOA won't make it to next season, the Prospect maybe? Even though I'd take him in a gunfight over the rest being that he's prior military.

Fishman
11-21-2009, 04:37 PM
I thought last week they said one more episode..

Bob
11-21-2009, 06:36 PM
I thought last week they said one more episode..

I thought I heard that too. But I also heard Dec. 1st is the final.

zamochit
11-21-2009, 06:47 PM
One more episode before the finale they said.

telecast
11-21-2009, 08:44 PM
One more episode before the finale they said.

Yep.

Gas Man
11-25-2009, 02:45 AM
HOLY FUCK STICKS! I just watched last weeks and this weeks episode.

It was very fullfilling to see the gemma thing come out, I was cheering the tv when tara beat that bitch ass admin, and I love that Tig told everybody what was up.

But talk about premature ejack in jax not being able to beat nazi man. And zobell not getting killed. But I think he'll get killed in jail.

Can't freakin wait for next week!!!!

telecast
11-25-2009, 08:35 AM
They can't let him go to jail, they can't even let him get to trial. If they do, Zobel and his daughter will testify about SAMCRO trying to kill them with the police chief standing there. The other cops are witnesses, they'll have no choice but to tell what they saw. SAMCRO and Unser will go down together. They have to deal with him before it gets to court.

Jax had the Arian down, he would've won if the cops hadn't shown up.

I love Tara, she's a sweetest little badass I've ever seen!

vortech302
11-25-2009, 08:36 PM
They could've ended the season last night and I would've been happy, great episode.

Gas Man
11-25-2009, 10:59 PM
Troof

Fishman
11-29-2009, 11:59 AM
Maybe I'm the last to know..but realized last night that Chibbs(?) scars are for real..
He had a pretty prominent part in Gladiator and looks the same.. scars and all just younger..so I did a little research..
His character is pretty much the same as his real life..grew up in a tough part of Scotland..got in a little trouble..was working in a bar and walked out one night and got knifed and scarred because he wouldn't give up his coat and records..almost died from the wounds.. His character's road name Chib is Scottish slang for a blade\knife...

Gas Man
11-30-2009, 02:25 AM
Is it Tuesday yet?

I can hardly wait!

Bob
11-30-2009, 08:26 AM
Maybe I'm the last to know..but realized last night that Chibbs(?) scars are for real..
He had a pretty prominent part in Gladiator and looks the same.. scars and all just younger..so I did a little research..
His character is pretty much the same as his real life..grew up in a tough part of Scotland..got in a little trouble..was working in a bar and walked out one night and got knifed and scarred because he wouldn't give up his coat and records..almost died from the wounds.. His character's road name Chib is Scottish slang for a blade\knife...

Yeah he played a non talking, at least I don't remember him talking, but main role in Smokin Aces and is supposed to be in Smokin Aces 2 as well.

Gas Man
12-02-2009, 02:57 AM
Are you MF'in kidding me?

What the hell is going to happen with Gemma?

Think the prospect is for sure dead?

I see Samcro going after Stahl again.

The Irish prick with Abel... Oh fuck!

Plus they never showed what has come of Auto in prison. I think he's going to leak that Zobell is a rat.

telecast
12-02-2009, 09:07 AM
Well, I'm pretty much done. The writing for that show was so contrived and stupid I can't take it anymore. How could a show that was so good during season 1 get so bad during season 2? Lousy writers.

WHY would they leave the store where Zobelle was trapped to help Jax? It would've taken ONE guy 30 seconds to have it over with. They spent all that time waiting, then clearing the customers and getting the clerks out of the way just to walk away. Yeah, right.

WHY did Tara take the baby to their HOUSE, when the entire club and families are under protection at the clubhouse? Yes, it was still on. They had to open the gate for the club to leave when they were going for the Zobelle motorcade.

WHY was it such a big deal that the ATF bitch shot the Irish kid? He punched her in the cooch and was trying to escape. She can typically get away with ANYTHING SHE WANTS on the show, but this was a big deal?

WHY would Zobelle let his daughter leave with no protection?

HOW could the club pull a truck in front of the Mayan/Zobelle motorcade, blast a bunch of Mayans but not hit the car, shoot out Zobelle's tires, and yet he ESCAPES and drives to a store?

There's more, but I'll stop except for the big one:

In the bathroom, Eddie (Irish kid) pulls the gun out and CHECKS to make sure it's loaded. He removes the magazine, looks at it, replaces it, and racks a round. Later the ATF bitch shoots him and proclaims 'blanks'. Are we to believe that a member of the IRA that deals guns can't tell the difference between a blank and a round of ammo? My wife can tell the difference. ANYONE can tell the difference.

They've gotten way too sloppy and just write whatever is convenient for them. They need to find new writers, preferably some that aren't 'Days of Our Lives' rejects.

ccRider246
12-02-2009, 11:48 AM
I think the average viewer doesn't see these details the way we do. Wife and I have been avid fans but, as was said, the writing this season has been pretty bad - too many holes and stupid actions. If Irish was so ready to kill Abel why didn't he do it after he knifed Half Sac? Taking Abel only guarantees that he will be chased down by Jax and it slows down his escape. Well, there is one benefit to ending it the way they did, it almost guarantees a third season. They just better come up with some better material.

telecast
12-02-2009, 11:57 AM
it almost guarantees a third season. They just better come up with some better material.

Yup, and yes. No doubt. Obvious cliffhangers:

What happens to Jemma? (as previously stated by Gas Man)
What happens to the baby?
Who killed Luan?

Other, not so obvious questions:

Notice Hale putting his hand on Tara's knee when he sat down to comfort her? They made it so freakin' obvious a blind man could see it.

Notice Unser and Jemma's touching in the car as they're leaving Charming? Another obvious one.

BTW, Jax's scream at the end of the show reminded me of Darth Vader's "NOOOoooooooo!". Me and my kid just looked at each other and laughed.

BEST part of the show: Zobelle calls Hale for help when he's trapped in the store. Hale tells him he'll call the Sheriff. Desk guy says: Should I get the Sheriff out there? Hale: "Nah..."

Bob
12-02-2009, 06:32 PM
I thought it sort of sucked last night. Too much action. I know, action is good, but it's not like real. Who has that much crap happening to them in one day?

The thing that got me was your kid is in a boat! Call 911! Not like the guy can ditch the boat and bail on foot. A Sheriff or Coast Guard would pick him up in 5 minutes. LOL Or dammit, you're all criminals and repo for a living. Hot wire one of those fountain boats and go after him!

Gas Man
12-02-2009, 09:45 PM
I know why the irish prick took the kid. Gemma took his kid so hes replacing his kid with a kid from the club. Plain and simple.

Sure some of it is very sketchy. perhaps bad writing but its a show. Just enjoy it.

As if that isn't in every show or movie.

Bob
12-02-2009, 10:09 PM
I know why the irish prick took the kid. Gemma took his kid so hes replacing his kid with a kid from the club. Plain and simple.

Sure some of it is very sketchy. perhaps bad writing but its a show. Just enjoy it.

As if that isn't in every show or movie.

He THINKS Gemma took his kid. ;)

Yeah, I know, it's just TV. LOL

ccRider246
12-03-2009, 06:45 AM
Good point, Bob, hot wiring a boat should have been an instant reaction.

All criticism aside, my wife and I greatly enjoy the show and are counting down till the next season; just wish we didn't have to wait until next fall.

Bob
12-03-2009, 08:12 AM
Good point, Bob, hot wiring a boat should have been an instant reaction.

All criticism aside, my wife and I greatly enjoy the show and are counting down till the next season; just wish we didn't have to wait until next fall.

The wait will suck!

RedneckMedic
12-03-2009, 11:48 AM
ya but that new show looks pretty good i forgot the name but it looks like its going to be funny

vortech302
12-03-2009, 12:56 PM
ya but that new show looks pretty good i forgot the name but it looks like its going to be funny

Archer and Justified both look good, and 24 starts back up in January.

vortech302
12-03-2009, 01:03 PM
WHY would they leave the store where Zobelle was trapped to help Jax? It would've taken ONE guy 30 seconds to have it over with.
Man, everyone I talk to says the same exact thing

WHY did Tara take the baby to their HOUSE, when the entire club and families are under protection at the clubhouse? Yes, it was still on. They had to open the gate for the club to leave when they were going for the Zobelle motorcade.
I thought she was picking up supplies

WHY was it such a big deal that the ATF bitch shot the Irish kid? He punched her in the cooch and was trying to escape. She can typically get away with ANYTHING SHE WANTS on the show, but this was a big deal?
Exactly, unless she didn't want to get on the radio cause she figured the dad was listening, but then she could've called on a cell or even the radio and asked someone to come inside real quick


HOW could the club pull a truck in front of the Mayan/Zobelle motorcade, blast a bunch of Mayans but not hit the car, shoot out Zobelle's tires, and yet he ESCAPES and drives to a store?
Haha, especially after that shootout at that out of town Chapter in season one when they were like 20 yards away from I think the Mayans who were all out in the open and hit noone.

I haven't looked but I heard it wasn't picked up for another season yet

Gas Man
12-04-2009, 12:06 AM
Been thinking about this some more.... maybe...


Well, I'm pretty much done. The writing for that show was so contrived and stupid I can't take it anymore. How could a show that was so good during season 1 get so bad during season 2? Lousy writers.

WHY would they leave the store where Zobelle was trapped to help Jax? It would've taken ONE guy 30 seconds to have it over with. They spent all that time waiting, then clearing the customers and getting the clerks out of the way just to walk away. Yeah, right.

Cause Clay was gg to leave for family. It was clay's kill. Plus maybe they were gg to walk him out or somin.

WHY did Tara take the baby to their HOUSE, when the entire club and families are under protection at the clubhouse? Yes, it was still on. They had to open the gate for the club to leave when they were going for the Zobelle motorcade.

They had halfsac as escort. And Tara and Gemma were just pakcing up more supplies... or suppose to be.

WHY was it such a big deal that the ATF bitch shot the Irish kid? He punched her in the cooch and was trying to escape. She can typically get away with ANYTHING SHE WANTS on the show, but this was a big deal?

Cause she shot him in the back.

WHY would Zobelle let his daughter leave with no protection?

He's a selfish prick

HOW could the club pull a truck in front of the Mayan/Zobelle motorcade, blast a bunch of Mayans but not hit the car, shoot out Zobelle's tires, and yet he ESCAPES and drives to a store?

Good aim?

There's more, but I'll stop except for the big one:

In the bathroom, Eddie (Irish kid) pulls the gun out and CHECKS to make sure it's loaded. He removes the magazine, looks at it, replaces it, and racks a round. Later the ATF bitch shoots him and proclaims 'blanks'. Are we to believe that a member of the IRA that deals guns can't tell the difference between a blank and a round of ammo? My wife can tell the difference. ANYONE can tell the difference.

Blinded by his love for her boobies?

They've gotten way too sloppy and just write whatever is convenient for them. They need to find new writers, preferably some that aren't 'Days of Our Lives' rejects.

telecast
12-04-2009, 08:56 AM
Originally Posted by telecast http://www.detailingforums.com/forums/images/detailing/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.2wheelmichigan.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7657#post7657)
Well, I'm pretty much done. The writing for that show was so contrived and stupid I can't take it anymore. How could a show that was so good during season 1 get so bad during season 2? Lousy writers.

WHY would they leave the store where Zobelle was trapped to help Jax? It would've taken ONE guy 30 seconds to have it over with. They spent all that time waiting, then clearing the customers and getting the clerks out of the way just to walk away. Yeah, right.

Cause Clay was gg to leave for family. It was clay's kill. Plus maybe they were gg to walk him out or somin.

Any other time in the show they had no problem splitting up to take care of multiple things.


WHY did Tara take the baby to their HOUSE, when the entire club and families are under protection at the clubhouse? Yes, it was still on. They had to open the gate for the club to leave when they were going for the Zobelle motorcade.

They had halfsac as escort. And Tara and Gemma were just pakcing up more supplies... or suppose to be.

And already had. They were putting stuff n the trunk at the store when jemma saw Zobelle's daughter. They would've went straight back to the clubhouse.

WHY was it such a big deal that the ATF bitch shot the Irish kid? He punched her in the cooch and was trying to escape. She can typically get away with ANYTHING SHE WANTS on the show, but this was a big deal?

Cause she shot him in the back.

True, and I had thought of that. But since she does just about anything she wants any other time, it doesn't wash. It was convenient for the writers this time.

WHY would Zobelle let his daughter leave with no protection?

He's a selfish prick

Absolutely. And we had already figured she'd get killed and he'd shrug his shoulders. But that doesn't hold with the talk they had before she left the cigar shop. He was worried about her, but let her go with no escort.


HOW could the club pull a truck in front of the Mayan/Zobelle motorcade, blast a bunch of Mayans but not hit the car, shoot out Zobelle's tires, and yet he ESCAPES and drives to a store?

Good aim?

A machine gun and a bunch of shotguns. Nope, not buying it.

There's more, but I'll stop except for the big one:

In the bathroom, Eddie (Irish kid) pulls the gun out and CHECKS to make sure it's loaded. He removes the magazine, looks at it, replaces it, and racks a round. Later the ATF bitch shoots him and proclaims 'blanks'. Are we to believe that a member of the IRA that deals guns can't tell the difference between a blank and a round of ammo? My wife can tell the difference. ANYONE can tell the difference.

Blinded by his love for her boobies?

Ok, THAT I can understand!


They've gotten way too sloppy and just write whatever is convenient for them. They need to find new writers, preferably some that aren't 'Days of Our Lives' rejects.

Bob
12-04-2009, 10:34 AM
ya but that new show looks pretty good i forgot the name but it looks like its going to be funny

The one with that dude from Gone in 60 Seconds and Hitman?

Bob
12-04-2009, 10:36 AM
I haven't looked but I heard it wasn't picked up for another season yet

I read they signed for Season 3 yesterday actually.

telecast
12-04-2009, 11:19 AM
Regarding Half-Sack:

Why Half-Sack was killed. Straight from Sutter

"Right, right. Let me just start, because I know people are going to be pissed off about the Half-Sack thing. I will tell you that I've been having conversations with Johnny Lewis all season, and Johnny wasn't happy on the show. Creatively, he really wanted out of his contract. We had ongoing conversations, and we decided we'd find some noble way for him to go. It wasn't my intent to try to be sensational and kill off a main character. People are going to have their reaction, but I don't want an actor that's not happy. It's not good for the actor, and it's not good for the show. I love Johnny. I'd work with him again in a heartbeat."

At least this explains why Tara took the kid to their house, they needed a way to kill Half-Sack in a 'noble' manner.

Gas Man
12-04-2009, 11:39 AM
Noble is BS. Especially with his ultra fighting skills

As far as the rest of your response to me Tele... B+ for effort?

telecast
12-04-2009, 11:57 AM
It's all opinion. Some TV is smart, some is dumb. The biggest issue I have with the whole thing is that the first season was well done and smart. The second season had to work its ass off just to be entertaining. The acting stands well, but the writing clearly went downhill. It's as if they know they have a hit so they can get lazy. IMO, this show has jumped the shark.

Will I watch next season? Maybe. They obviously have the ability to make the show very good, season one proved that. So I'll watch the season premier and an episode or two to see if they get back to their roots.

Unless I miss my guess, next season is going to be "Sons of Anarchy, Europe". Tommy has to get out of the country with ATF on his ass, so he'll take the boy to Ireland. Jax (and at least Chibs) will follow, along with Jemma who needs to hide for a while anyway. Remember Chibs' daughter is stuck there, supposedly under the protection of a sister club, or possibly a chapter of SOA, can't recall exactly. And let's not forget that SAMCRO's newest enemy #1 is heading for Budapest. Whattya' wanna' bet that we all of a sudden find out there's also a European chapter of SOA, more than likely in Budapest?

vortech302
12-04-2009, 11:10 PM
[QUOTE=telecast;7720]IMO, this show has jumped the shark. QUOTE]

Oh man, an obscure Happy Days reference in a SOA thread. I agree with you on there probably being some overseas stuff next season

zamochit
12-05-2009, 12:15 AM
If it goes overseas I won't continue to watch it. I have no interest in what goes on over there.

Bob
12-05-2009, 09:14 AM
If it goes overseas I won't continue to watch it. I have no interest in what goes on over there.

It's not a documentary. :p

zamochit
12-05-2009, 08:00 PM
I know, but it would be gay if they all ship their bikes over to ride in Europe to chase Jax's son. I am just not interested to see that.

Berto
12-06-2009, 02:53 PM
Man, not to start a fire... but it's a TV show... Suspend your disbelief... it's not real.

I for one thought it was done great and am excited for next season. It's supposed to be fiction and they did it. I was pissed about half sack but as mentioned above, it had to do with the actor wanting out. I saw the foreshadow when they said they would patch him in very soon.

Just enjoy the show guys.

telecast
07-09-2010, 09:34 AM
Unless I miss my guess, next season is going to be "Sons of Anarchy, Europe".


HA!

Sons of Anarchy Season 3 Spoilers:

Season Overview

According to the Chicago Tribune (http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2010/06/sons-of-anarchy-fx.html), the new season will tap on the link between Belfast and Charming since John Teller set up an outpost of Sons of Anarchy in Belfast decades earlier. Series creator Kurt Sutter explains that the show has "dual [Belfast-Charming] story lines from the jump" and the two plots will come together deeply a few episodes into Season 3.

Frankenhippie
07-09-2010, 04:28 PM
I like the show but I take it for what it's worth...entertainment! I see too many guys getting their panties in a bunch over how true 1%ers wouldn't do this or that. PBTBTBTBTBTBTBTBTBT!!!! I've always ridden independant but have hung with several clubs in the past. All good people in my eyes but then my view is not always.... mainstream. LOL

Now.... my wife? ... I swear she'd throw her panties on the stage if Jax were there. :p:eek::D That said, I do have a long sleeve SOA t-shirt. ;)

We're both looking forward to this season starting. Nothign but crap on the tube this time of year. Good call on the "europe" scenario. Last years ending pretty well nailed that. It's cool that they are starting to replay last season episodes too. Kinda building it up for this season.

Bob
07-10-2010, 12:01 AM
Looks like they are filming in Belfast now:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/northern_ireland/10553740.stm

Gas Man
07-10-2010, 09:14 AM
I'm with you hippie. However I will say, I'm less looking forward to this season than last. I'm just worried that they are just making it "too much" crazy. I have stopped watching several shows in the past due to this same stupidity IMO

Frankenhippie
07-11-2010, 10:29 AM
You mean there's such a thing as too much DRAMA?!?!?!? :eek:

:D I know exactly what you're saying...

telecast
07-11-2010, 12:00 PM
Well, too much bad drama. Like I said at the end of last season, the writing got too contrived, too convenient to get where they wanted to be. It doesn't matter to me what a real 1% club does, or what a real criminal would do, or if it's real life, just write it so it stays within the standards of the reality they created for the show.

In their world one guy can go kill someone in front of half the town unless it's inconvenient. Then it takes half the club and they have to wait until all witnesess are gone.

In their world an ATF agent can get away with anything she wants unless it's inconvenient. Then she has to frame the main female character. Not because she wanted to frame Jemma, but to save her own ass. From....? Again, she does anything she wants any other time.

In their world, a gun-running IRA member can't look into a magazine and tell the difference between blanks and live rounds. Who the hell let that one get through?

I'm hoping they improve this season.

Gas Man
07-11-2010, 12:04 PM
Thank you Tele for summing up my issues

Mudpuppy
07-12-2010, 11:54 AM
this and always sunny in philadelphia are good entertainment imo..

RedneckMedic
07-12-2010, 09:07 PM
i like almost all of the fx shows. justified was awesome and i watched all of nip tuck and i watch rescue-me every week

Mudpuppy
07-13-2010, 10:48 AM
i like almost all of the fx shows. justified was awesome and i watched all of nip tuck and i watch rescue-me every week

Nip Tuck was awesome in the beginning.. after season 2 kind of lost its flavor but had sparks of brilliance here and there.. i still liked watching it though.. always entertaining.. never got into justified or rescue me.. i did dig the show Dirt and the Riches.. FX definitely puts out some quality shows..

Gas Man
07-14-2010, 09:31 AM
I like justified. I hope they don't "SOA it" in the 2nd season.

Mudpuppy
07-14-2010, 11:48 AM
So when does SOA start again, over?

The BIG ISSUE i have with FX is their fucked up scheduling... Nip Tuck was on then it disappeared like a year and a half then it was back on for a short season and then a couple month break then back on - wtf, over? I MUST HAVE CONSISTENT SCHEDULING - I got places to see and bitches to do.

RedneckMedic
07-14-2010, 04:25 PM
thats what the dvr is for and soa starts in sept again which is when it started last year

Mudpuppy
07-14-2010, 05:36 PM
dvr is set

vortech302
09-07-2010, 08:05 AM
Any early predictions for how this season will go?

telecast
09-07-2010, 08:43 AM
I made mine last year, said they were going to Europe, they are.

If you're looking for general storyline predictions, Jax will get his kid back, Jema will be cleared, Jax and Hellboy will make up. The white supremicist will be in the picture, but they won't win out over him, this year. He'll be a pain in their ass all season though.

The club will get a new probee with Halfsack gone, they need someone to do the crap work. The question is will the writers make him a hang-around, or just bring him in as a prospect, like he's been around all along but in the background.

At some point you may have to tell me if any of this came true. They have 3 episodes to hook me. If it's going the same way as last year I'm out.

Tonight, 10:00, FX.

Mudpuppy
09-07-2010, 02:15 PM
got it

RedneckMedic
09-08-2010, 01:10 AM
didnt expect them to kill hale off and the show was slow as shit til the last 30 seconds too many dang commercials but im still a fan of the show

telecast
09-08-2010, 07:39 AM
We don't know for sure he's dead.

So, head biker mama is wanted for murder. The police know her face in 5 states, according to the chief. The feds have a $10k bounty for any info leading to her arrest.

We need to hide her!

How?

We'll take her to a bunch of seedy motels moving around so they can't find us!

OK, then what?

Then we'll all stand around outside the motel wearing our colors with our bikes in full view. NO ONE WILL EVER FIND US!

Mudpuppy
09-08-2010, 11:21 AM
Yeah I thought the same thing about hiding Gemma - wtf?? Like the FBI is NEVER going to find you if there is 20 bikers hanging around outside a hotel and they would NEVER look at a hotel - hello you are on the run and need a place to stay - where do they check - airports, train stations, bus stations, hotels, etc. And then she goes to her Dad's house - the FBI would NEVER know she had a father right?

Overall though I thought it was a decent episode and the previews look to be pretty good for the upcoming season.. I think episode one they were kind of building up the suspense for the rest of the season..

telecast
09-08-2010, 11:45 AM
Yeah, the episode overall was pretty good. They did a nice job of tying in last season and setting up this season.

I really don't think Hale is dead. I think SAMCRO is going to help him out in some way while he's in the hospital and it'll seal the relationship. Unser's cancer will eventually pull him from the show, and while Hale will never give as much freedon to SAMCRO as Unser does, there will be closer ties. Could be wrong, been wrong before.

Another thing that was a bit 'comic-book hero', When they chased down the gangbangers and were faced off by a bunch of them with guns, everything was forgiven and ok as soon as Jax explained that the guy who sold them the boat kidnapped his kid. Everyone softens, guns down, gave them all the info they could and shook hands.

Yeah, right. What would really happen:

"Man, I don't give a F*#K about your Motherf*#kin' kid!"

Then they'd all pull the trigger.

Bob
09-08-2010, 12:52 PM
Hale's for sure dead:
http://blogs.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php/arts-a-entertainment/tuned-in-journal/20558-sons-of-anarchy-shocker

Plus half his brains where on the concrete. LOL

telecast
09-08-2010, 01:04 PM
I saw his head busted open but didn't pick up on the splatter. My kid said he saw it, I was trying to reason out why they'd kill off such an important character, the article explains it. I was wrong on this one for sure.

Funny, my kid said last night "Man, they must've really hated that actor. When Half-sack died they gave him a noble way out, with Hale they just run him down with a car!"

Bob
09-08-2010, 01:19 PM
I saw his head busted open but didn't pick up on the splatter. My kid said he saw it, I was trying to reason out why they'd kill off such an important character, the article explains it. I was wrong on this one for sure.

Funny, my kid said last night "Man, they must've really hated that actor. When Half-sack died they gave him a noble way out, with Hale they just run him down with a car!"

LOL Very true.

RedneckMedic
09-08-2010, 04:24 PM
ya his brains were everywhere and there are few times you can call someone dead on scene and thats one of them... i liked how the cops let jax beat the hell out of one of the gun man

Gas Man
09-08-2010, 04:31 PM
Yeah that was a shocker. But it's the way you keep Chief in his office.

But who the hell were the gunners?

RedneckMedic
09-08-2010, 04:49 PM
Yeah that was a shocker. But it's the way you keep Chief in his office.

But who the hell were the gunners?

i was wondering the same thing it didnt really make sense and i was wondering if they were going to shoot up the funeral even if they werent going to kill off hale just to get jax going. i couldnt tell but the one guy looked mexican but he definitely didnt look irish so im lost on that.

telecast
09-08-2010, 05:26 PM
We were thinking either the white supremacists or possibly the Mayans? Couldn't really tell from looking at the guy that Jax thrashed. Agree Rug, the guy did kind of look Mexican.

Also, they showed a kid shot up pretty bad. Was that one of Opie's?

Bob
09-08-2010, 08:41 PM
I don't think it was Opie's kid, just some random person at the funeral.

Charming has to be the most violent city in the world. LOL

telecast
09-08-2010, 08:59 PM
ya his brains were everywhere and there are few times you can call someone dead on scene and thats one of them

Are you sure Rug? I think you said you're studying for EMT, so let's take a test!

First some background. I'm a former volunteer firefighter and medical first responder with AED, O2 therapy and Intubation training.

The following is absolutely true, no bullshit, not made up, not even a part of it. It happened about 20 years ago.

It was the middle of the night and my pager went off. We responded to the scene of a medical emergency, attempted suicide. PD was already there. We walk in and there is grey matter everywhere. Walls, ceiling, floor. On the couch was an (apparently) lifeless body, minus the head. The tip of the spine was sticking out from between the shoulders, right where the skull attached. The guy had stuck the business end of a 7mm Mauser military rifle under his chin and pulled the trigger. We were trying to figure out why they called us and couldn't just wait for the ambulance to transport when we realized the guy WAS STILL BREATHING.

Ok, test time:
How is this possible?

How did we treat?

How did the Paramedics treat?

Remember, this is no bullshit. Don't be so sure that just because there's a split open head you can pronounce at the scene.

Chris300s
09-08-2010, 10:34 PM
Thank you Tele, I'm going to go to bed thinking about shoulders and a spinal column.
(actually I wrote that and realized that I'm lucky never to have seen it in real life).
I want to hear the answer to the question though...
A paramedic friend told me about a roll over accident in a convertible where they were slipping and sliding up to the car in the blood and awful... Cause of death? "TMB" - Too Many Birthdays.... swears that's what's written down.

Chris

telecast
09-08-2010, 11:06 PM
I'll give the answers after Rug gets a shot at it.

I think he was the one in EMT training...damn, I can't remember. Was it Voortech?

Gas Man
09-08-2010, 11:12 PM
Its rugby.

Bob
09-08-2010, 11:14 PM
I'll give the answers after Rug gets a shot at it.

I think he was the one in EMT training...damn, I can't remember. Was it Voortech?

Yeah, Rugby. Vortech is a Fireman/EMS

telecast
09-08-2010, 11:18 PM
Voortech should know too, but he shouldn't say anything until the student gets a shot!

Mudpuppy
09-09-2010, 10:54 AM
Yeah, the episode overall was pretty good. They did a nice job of tying in last season and setting up this season.

I really don't think Hale is dead. I think SAMCRO is going to help him out in some way while he's in the hospital and it'll seal the relationship. Unser's cancer will eventually pull him from the show, and while Hale will never give as much freedon to SAMCRO as Unser does, there will be closer ties. Could be wrong, been wrong before.

Another thing that was a bit 'comic-book hero', When they chased down the gangbangers and were faced off by a bunch of them with guns, everything was forgiven and ok as soon as Jax explained that the guy who sold them the boat kidnapped his kid. Everyone softens, guns down, gave them all the info they could and shook hands.

Yeah, right. What would really happen:

"Man, I don't give a F*#K about your Motherf*#kin' kid!"

Then they'd all pull the trigger.

believe dat - yeah that was a bit weak too for sure..

vortech302
09-09-2010, 12:28 PM
Tele - Are you talking like everything was gone, like Headless Horseman gone?

telecast
09-09-2010, 02:48 PM
Yup.

RedneckMedic
09-09-2010, 10:45 PM
ive heard some crazy stories about being shot in the head and living and other stuff but thats crazyness mayne. i dont even think i would know where to start but so was he just breathing through his trache? sounds almost like a johnny got his gun thing. i have no answer and am stumped but do want to hear what happened and hope you have pictures because i have a very sick sense of humor and enjoy that stuff.

telecast
09-10-2010, 08:50 AM
Pics? Jeez, that's sick!

Ok, here are the answers in layman's terms. I'm not doing it in layman's terms for you guys, I'm doing it for me. It's been so long since I did any medical stuff I can't remember all the technical shit.

How is that possible?
C3, the third cervical vertebrae (third one down from your skull), has a group of nerves that control autofunctions. Blinking, breathing heartbeat, etc. That's why you don't have to think to do them. You have to tell your brain to move your limbs, walk, drink, but not those functions. Hell, if you did have to you'd die in your sleep! The shot he took was perfect, almost like a surgeon. He literally blew his head off but left the spinal column intact. The windpipe was intact, but a little noisy when he breathed. Along with that the carotid artery was damaged enough to slow blood loss considerably. When the gun went off he didn't fall over, he just sat back. That helped stem the flow of blood too. The way it all happened was like a recipe for the outcome, probably couldn't have done it better if he tried.

How did we treat?
Same as we always would. Took vitals and did whatever we could until the paramedics got there. Not much we could do, trying to stop the blood would've meant doing more harm on the tissue between the shoulders and probably cut off his breath. Pain management certainly wasn't an issue.

How did the paramedics treat?
Again, same as always. They're bound by law to keep people alive as long as possible. Even though this was a completely lost cause, they had no option but to try and keep him going. He did die (stop breathing, no heartbeat) on the way to the hospital. Since paramedics can't pronounce (or at least they couldn't back then, don't know about now) the docs pronounced him DOA.

This was certainly a freak thing. I have no idea how long he would've stayed alive if there was no blood loss and everything else worked right. Minutes? Hours? I couldn't say.

vortech302
09-10-2010, 10:09 AM
I would've said vitals, IV, monitor, have the suction ready. We can't pronounce but we call the hospital and tell them what we have and a doctor can call it over the radio, then we call the medical examiner and wait until they get there and turn the body over to them.

RedneckMedic
09-10-2010, 10:27 AM
Ya couldn't say there is much more you could do than that its one of those situations where you walk in and are like wtf.




I would've said vitals, IV, monitor, have the suction ready. We can't pronounce but we call the hospital and tell them what we have and a doctor can call it over the radio, then we call the medical examiner and wait until they get there and turn the body over to them.

ya thats what we had to do with this one guy that was shot behing the ear in highland park. we just hooked him up to the moniter and called med control and they called it but this guy wasnt breathing and was stiff as a board and was that way for about 12 hours or so. we did even know he was shot until we found the casing in the back seat and that was wierd because it landed straight up. i was surprised there was no exit wound but after we looked at him a little more we found the shell just making a slight buldge on the other side of his neck.

telecast
09-10-2010, 04:04 PM
I would've said vitals, IV, monitor, have the suction ready. We can't pronounce but we call the hospital and tell them what we have and a doctor can call it over the radio, then we call the medical examiner and wait until they get there and turn the body over to them.

Times must've been different, the ambulance transported. The paramedics did what you described, but keep in mind we couldn't. We were all medical first responders with some added training, a step below EMT.

Bob
09-10-2010, 06:55 PM
You guys ever roll up to a scene and see Gas Man humping a dead body?

RedneckMedic
09-10-2010, 08:25 PM
You guys ever roll up to a scene and see Gas Man humping a dead body?

not yet but ill keep an eye out

Gas Man
09-10-2010, 11:06 PM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/cjclark69/Posting/lumpics.jpg

Bob
09-10-2010, 11:09 PM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/cjclark69/Posting/lumpics.jpg

LOL Whenever I see that guy in another movie in a serious roll I can never buy it.

Mudpuppy
09-13-2010, 12:01 PM
i went to the high school the other day for an open house and there was a seniors meeting before the open house.. the counselor speaking at it kept saying "m'kay" at the end of every sentence like on south park..

RedneckMedic
09-13-2010, 01:09 PM
was out last night and this guy was wearing a long sleeve soa shirt with the full patch on the back except the bottom rocker was michigan. I didn't think any one actually bought and wore those shirts and then after seeing it for a little bit i went up and asked him if he rode and the mfer didnt even ride a bike.

telecast
09-13-2010, 02:39 PM
I didn't think any one actually bought and wore those shirts and then after seeing it for a little bit i went up and asked him if he rode and the mfer didnt even ride a bike.

I haven't been to the dealer since spring, but over winter Biker Bob's went through tons of that shit. The display would be full one visit, empty the next, then full again and so on. I cannot see myself or anyone I know in one of those shirts, or hoodies, or hats, or....

Mudpuppy
09-13-2010, 07:16 PM
was out last night and this guy was wearing a long sleeve soa shirt with the full patch on the back except the bottom rocker was michigan. I didn't think any one actually bought and wore those shirts and then after seeing it for a little bit i went up and asked him if he rode and the mfer didnt even ride a bike.

hilarious.. his wife or girlfriend probably won't let him ride..

Bob
09-13-2010, 08:24 PM
Yeah my brother inlaw wears one and doesn't ride. At least I ride when I wear my Wild Hog colors.

Bob
09-23-2010, 09:13 PM
I knew Stephen King was going to be in this season so I kept waiting for him. He played a pretty good roll.

Mudpuppy
09-24-2010, 12:27 PM
so far its been good.. i was confused in the last episode i didn't know there was sons of anarchy belfast? i thought it was just the IRA or whatever?

Gas Man
09-24-2010, 01:24 PM
I knew Stephen King was going to be in this season so I kept waiting for him. He played a pretty good roll.

I knew that was somebody but couldn't put my finger on it! TNX!


so far its been good.. i was confused in the last episode i didn't know there was sons of anarchy belfast? i thought it was just the IRA or whatever?

Belfast is in Ireland I think.

Mudpuppy
09-24-2010, 06:05 PM
I knew that was somebody but couldn't put my finger on it! TNX!



Belfast is in Ireland I think.

No shit dipstick.. I know Belfast is in Ireland - hence one of my favorite drinks the Belfast Car Bomb.. I was saying I didn't know in the show (not real life) that there was a SOA chapter in Belfast.. it was the first I saw it last episode and I further question it because if there is a chapter wouldn't they see Jax kid around and call the mother chapter?

telecast
09-24-2010, 06:21 PM
You would've had to watch last season when they explained the Belfast chapter, but yeah. I also have a suspicion we'll hear of a few other European chapters once they go after Zobel.

Bob
09-24-2010, 10:48 PM
I knew that was somebody but couldn't put my finger on it! TNX!



Belfast is in Ireland I think.

No problem man. I was dying to see what role he'd play and when he road up on that bike I started laughing. Sort of like the "Wolf" from Pulp Fiction but creepier.

vortech302
09-24-2010, 11:16 PM
No problem man. I was dying to see what role he'd play and when he road up on that bike I started laughing. Sort of like the "Wolf" from Pulp Fiction but creepier.

I was thinking the Wolf also just not as good. I'm probably the only one to see this but on TMZ today Katey Segal was walking through a parking lot with her husband and they said "You're all tatted up like the guys on Sons of Anarchy, why aren't you on the show?" He shrugs his shoulders and she says "Cause he created it"

Bob
09-25-2010, 09:19 AM
I was thinking the Wolf also just not as good. I'm probably the only one to see this but on TMZ today Katey Segal was walking through a parking lot with her husband and they said "You're all tatted up like the guys on Sons of Anarchy, why aren't you on the show?" He shrugs his shoulders and she says "Cause he created it"


I did not know she was married to Sutter. She also has a kid named Jackson in real life.

RedneckMedic
09-25-2010, 07:23 PM
ya if you watch the dvd theres some cool bonus features. my favorite is season 1 when they go over each characters bike you get to see some shit you dont notice watching the show like the guy with the mohawk and tats on his head (forgot his name) has a bad ass sound system behing the headlight cowl. and they show close ups of the paint jobs which are actually really cool.

and sutter did have a role on the show he played otto the guy that got stabbed in the eye in prison.

horrorbusiness
09-26-2010, 08:53 PM
I've never watched, and I don't remember if I've already posted that in this thread.

zamochit
09-26-2010, 11:14 PM
What ever happened to Ables mom (the sopranos chic), I forgot.

RedneckMedic
09-27-2010, 01:19 AM
What ever happened to Ables mom (the sopranos chic), I forgot.

nothing she was on desperate housewives last i seen though and jimmy-o was just in that movie called the town. the girlfriend always gets pissed when i point out characters from the show in other shit because theres at least one character in everything we watch. every time we watch remember the titans she gets pissed because i have to point out who opie is to her.

Mudpuppy
09-27-2010, 10:48 AM
You would've had to watch last season when they explained the Belfast chapter, but yeah. I also have a suspicion we'll hear of a few other European chapters once they go after Zobel.

i have watched every episode since inception and i don't remember that? maybe i was drinking that night..

Gas Man
09-29-2010, 11:32 PM
No problem man. I was dying to see what role he'd play and when he road up on that bike I started laughing. Sort of like the "Wolf" from Pulp Fiction but creepier.

Exactly!

telecast
10-23-2010, 10:02 AM
Are you guys still watching the show? I haven't seen it for 3 weeks now due to the Fox/Dish pissing contest. We've been watching Detroit 1-8-7 instead. It's a better show overall, unfortunately it's another cop crime drama. At least SOA had the bike thing going for it. I don't really miss it, but we'll probably try and get caught up via reruns if we ever get FX back.

Gas Man
10-23-2010, 11:32 AM
I have been... it's been keeping up with their standard M.O.

Bob
10-23-2010, 04:36 PM
I DVR it and watch it on the weekends. I got sick of all of the commercials on FX.

RedneckMedic
10-23-2010, 07:36 PM
this week is 90 minutes and thats what i usually do is watch detroit 187 then the sons so i can skip the commercials

Bob
10-23-2010, 10:16 PM
This week coming up is 90 minutes? We just got done watching the last episode just now.

Gas Man
10-24-2010, 07:59 AM
Yep 90 mins.

Oh and you can also watch it on ON DEMAND as well. Very limited commercials there, like maybe 2

Mudpuppy
10-25-2010, 02:20 PM
hell yes it looks to be a good one..

RedneckMedic
12-01-2010, 02:37 AM
awesome episode if you ask me... finally something i didn't expect. I kept waiting for someone to die because the past two seasons some one did. I thought opie or clay was going to be killed off. anyways good show outdid my expectations.

Did any of you catch the guest appearance of this guy on the show pretty Bad ass if you ask me.

http://www.buzzhollywood.com/celebrity-images/1278919523/b6b98_sonny-barger-pic.jpg

Its a pic of Sonny Barger posing with Kurt Sutter (otto) the creator of the show from one of the scenes they did in the show.

Gas Man
12-01-2010, 07:46 AM
Yeah it was announced weeks ago that Sonny was going to be on it. I have yet to watch it, as it's on my DVR right now.

Mudpuppy
12-01-2010, 05:00 PM
great episode for sure.. never saw any of that coming..

Grantzphoto
12-02-2010, 07:44 PM
I'm a bit confused if the club was in on jacks deal or not. seems like they might have been and were just acting idk.

Gas Man
12-03-2010, 02:40 PM
They were in on it. That was cemented when Gemmy got her letter. It was a great great episode!!!

Mudpuppy
08-07-2011, 01:07 AM
starts back up september 6, 2011

Bob
08-07-2011, 01:01 PM
starts back up september 6, 2011

I did not realize it was coming up so soon!

Gas Man
08-07-2011, 02:09 PM
I'm not going to watch it this year... it got too stupid last year.

Mad Dog
08-07-2011, 03:39 PM
I couldn't seem to get into it last year. I will pass................

Mudpuppy
08-11-2011, 10:23 AM
a lot of shows starting in september - i think always sunny is sept 22..

Grantzphoto
08-11-2011, 02:58 PM
I downloaded their app for my iPhone in the first mini episode of them being in prison jax gets shanked like 6 times.

Gas Man
08-11-2011, 11:24 PM
They have an app? LOL

Mudpuppy
08-12-2011, 03:14 PM
there's an app for that

JakeWelch1987
02-29-2012, 11:04 AM
I am sorry but i think i am too late for this thread otherwise i will surely join the discussion.

Gas Man
02-29-2012, 11:06 AM
I don't watch it anymore but plenty do. Have at it.

Nobody
02-29-2012, 12:35 PM
I've seen 1,2 & 4. currently slogging through season 3 after scoring the dvds in a close out sale. 1&2 were good, 4 was great in my opinion other than the very Deus Ex Machina bit just before the very end. Season 3 so far is lackluster.

Gas Man
02-29-2012, 12:48 PM
I quit after season 3. I heard season 4 made up for it, but I'm not sure I want to get back into it...

RedneckMedic
08-21-2012, 08:15 PM
Hey guys I was wondering if any of you had seasons 1-4 on dvd. The girl friend has never seen the show and with it starting in september I want to cathc her up

Bagger Dave
08-21-2012, 09:37 PM
I'm looking forward to the new season! :rockwoot:

Gas Man
08-22-2012, 12:47 AM
Lance, I checked comcast on demand and they don't have it on there at all, currently. Probably come back on when the next season gets close (sep 11.

Redbox doesn't have it.
FXnetworks.com doesn't show any of the 1-4

Mudpuppy
08-22-2012, 12:20 PM
Did you try hulu?

RedneckMedic
08-22-2012, 01:42 PM
Thx guys but we broke down and bought season 1 and two last night. Its kinda cool rewatching all of these i kinda pick up on some more stuff. Clay looks way younger and chibs was way funnier haha

Mudpuppy
08-22-2012, 02:44 PM
Should be an interesting season coming up

Gas Man
08-22-2012, 03:46 PM
hulu didn't have it either.

Mudpuppy
08-23-2012, 10:23 AM
It has to be somewhere out there

RedneckMedic
08-23-2012, 10:24 AM
I even tried the torrent sites but the full seasons were like 6gb each and took way to long to download

Mudpuppy
08-23-2012, 11:18 AM
Try one of these - if they say to register then just forget it and close the tab. I can't do a full search because it is blocked at work:

www.tv-links.eu/tv-shows/ (http://www.tv-links.eu/tv-shows/)Sons-of-Anarchy_623/ (http://www.tv-links.eu/tv-shows/Sons-of-Anarchy_623/)
www.free (http://www.<strong>free</strong>)-tv-video-online.me/internet/sons_of_anarchy/ (http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/internet/sons_of_anarchy/www.free-tv-video-online.me/internet/sons_of_anarchy/)
www.tvduck.com/ (http://www.tvduck.com/)Sons-of-Anarchy.html (http://www.tvduck.com/Sons-of-Anarchy.html)
www.ovguide.com/tv/ (http://www.ovguide.com/tv/)sons_of_anarchy.htm (http://www.ovguide.com/tv/sons_of_anarchy.htm)
www.couchtuner.com/ (http://www.couchtuner.com/)sons-of-anarchy/ (http://www.couchtuner.com/sons-of-anarchy/)

Also I see YouTube has episodes as well

Nobody
08-30-2012, 04:24 AM
for season 3, weatch first few episodes then jump to the last 2 or 3.. seriously. also S4 is out on video now

Mudpuppy
09-12-2012, 10:39 AM
So what did everyone think of the season premiere? I thought it was pretty good. Pretty chaotic right now.

Chain
09-12-2012, 03:25 PM
I'm a flippen season behind, so I won't be seeing it till next year....

Mudpuppy
09-13-2012, 11:43 AM
I'm a flippen season behind, so I won't be seeing it till next year....

Catch up on last season now - the new season just started.. quit your job if you have to..

RedneckMedic
09-13-2012, 11:55 AM
I thought it was good. A lot going on at once but looks to be a promising season.

Chain
09-13-2012, 04:29 PM
Catch up on last season now - the new season just started.. quit your job if you have to..

I don't see why that's NOT a reasonable approach. I'll get on it. ;)

Mudpuppy
09-17-2012, 11:11 AM
I don't see why that's NOT a reasonable approach. I'll get on it. ;)

Be sure to stock up on beer first

Nobody
09-18-2012, 02:01 AM
one word describes it "Brutal"

I so hope Tig gets his vengeance in equal.

detdrbuzzard
09-19-2012, 06:49 PM
i have never seen this show

Mudpuppy
09-20-2012, 10:48 AM
it was ok on tuesday.. little slow.. next week should be good..

toby
11-25-2012, 10:00 AM
or call it sons of 2 wheels michigan

horrorbusiness
11-25-2012, 10:59 AM
i have never seen this show

I watch on occasions, I don't see why the show is so popular. I'm not a fan of the "1% er" mentality.

detdrbuzzard
11-25-2012, 08:11 PM
i'm in a m/c club and if i wanted to see any anarchy i would go to the club house :)

leebo
11-25-2012, 08:29 PM
I like the show mainly cause i cant tell whats gonna happen next on it!

Moesride
11-25-2012, 09:20 PM
i'm in a m/c club and if i wanted to see any anarchy i would go to the club house :) :lmao: good one!

Caveman
11-25-2012, 11:32 PM
i'm in a m/c club and if i wanted to see any anarchy i would go to the club house :)

What MC are you in Buzz?

Nobody
08-09-2013, 01:22 AM
My niece made my older sister send this to me because "They ride noisy bike like uncle D."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=FmICU1gMAAw

Gas Man
08-10-2013, 12:39 AM
:rofl: :lol:

Mudpuppy
08-12-2013, 01:33 PM
Coming back soon eh?

toby
09-12-2013, 10:24 AM
i rather be riding then watching.

RedneckMedic
09-12-2013, 06:45 PM
I think it was an awesome episode. I loved when tig killed the guy in the tub full of piss then pissed on him

Denimblack
09-12-2013, 08:59 PM
Agreed. The only part I wish they did without was when the kid shot up the school. Other than that I thought it was an excellent episode.

seatmaker
11-20-2013, 09:37 PM
Anyone notice that the bullet pulled out of Bobby was still in the case? Lol, also thought the bullet was suppose to mushroom, was a perfect hollow point. Are they really that dumb?

Ultra AL
11-20-2013, 09:44 PM
Anyone notice that the bullet pulled out of Bobby was still in the case? Lol, also thought the bullet was suppose to mushroom, was a perfect hollow point. Are they really that dumb?


Yeah, i saw that. You'd think they woulda known better. :shrug:

RedneckMedic
11-20-2013, 11:03 PM
Ya I was like Damn thats a big bullet. He must have just then it at him hahhaha

Mudpuppy
11-21-2013, 02:41 PM
Agreed. The only part I wish they did without was when the kid shot up the school. Other than that I thought it was an excellent episode.

Yeah that was totally weak. But overall great episode. A lot of surprises.

horrorbusiness
12-10-2014, 07:53 AM
All in favor of this thread meeting Mr mayham

horrorbusiness
12-10-2014, 07:54 AM
Not Mz. Mayham, thats muds drag name.

Ultra AL
12-10-2014, 02:25 PM
Did anyone watch last night? Notice the appearing/disappearing front brake lever on Jax old man's bike? One shot it had a lever, next it didn't. Then it was back again. Then gone. LOL it was hilarious.


All in favor of this thread meeting Mr mayham

AYE!!!

leebo
12-10-2014, 02:33 PM
Im glad this is the last year for this show I dont think i can take anymore!

Moesride
12-10-2014, 08:12 PM
I have never seen a single episode. :idk: