View Full Version : Service, trust, and the black rifle

Ultra AL
03-12-2014, 10:32 AM
From another forum I'm on:

Service, Trust, and the black rifle...a few words from Slim.

The great thing about the military is that at the age of 18, they trust you with machine guns, rocket launchers, grenades, hell - even a ****ing tank. By the time you leave the service, regardless if if it was only for 4 years or 20, you have no problem with your brother in law or civilian buddy owning a Glock or AR-15. Odds are you bought your own aftermarket magazines, sling and miscellaneous gear for your issued blaster.

Often, after finding that gear in an old day bag you say “I should buy a rifle, so I can put this **** to use.” So what do you do? You go down to your local gun shop and pick up a facsimile of your old service rifle.

Odds are you were taught proper marksmanship in the service, and the fact that your newly acquired carbine is missing the happy switch that throws a brass rainbow is no big deal. You were taught to AIM. To make WELL PLACED SHOTS. You shot your M4 or M-16 on semiauto at the range, and in combat. Three round burst is just a waste of time. So what do you do now? You go Zero that sucker!

The love affair begins. If you haven’t had a rifle in your hands since you left the service, it's like embracing an old girlfriend that’s still hot. You remember her familiar curves, all the things you learned about her. All the things you liked and hated about her. More importantly, you missed her. But this gun isn’t your old worn out Filipino street-hooker of a issued gun. No, it’s a brand new super model in your hands. Your dream girl. That first night that you bring her home, you resist the urge to sleep with her. The memories flood back. And suddenly that piece of you, a little sliver you knew has been missing since the uniform came off - it's back.

If I had my way, every E-3 would be required by the UCMJ to buy his own rifle - Swingin' Dick would say maybe every E-3 from every legit combat MOS/AFSC/Rate/Whatever in any branch. If you shot 3-gun matches or CMP comps on the weekend, you would get extra promotion points. You would be trusted to pursue range time on your own, and there would be unit shooting competitions all the time. You are a warrior, and that mindset needs to be reinforced in every way possible.

Now that you are gone, away from the jungle, desert or arid mountains nothing has changed. You are still the dumb knuckledragger you were back at the FOB. You still carry the warrior spirit, and will until the day that you die. That’s not a bad thing, kiddo. Here's the thing about all this. As a free citizen, a veteran and productive member of this great nation, you are still bound to protect the principles that you were taught to value. To fly our flag, love your country, and defend our freedoms.

So this is what I ask. You can do one small favor for ole’ Slim. Go buy a ****ing rifle. Just that. Go buy America’s rifle. Go buy YOUR rifle. The AR-15. The weapon is one you already know, already have built trust and confidence in. Spend that measly little slice of tax return on something you will cherish and keep for the rest of your life. The rifle you will teach your son or daughter to shoot someday. You will be putting money into one of the last true American industries left. You will be feeding your countrymen’s children, not sending your dollars to an overseas slave laborer. Screw the new flat screen, the new parts for your motorcycle. If you don’t own a rifle, you are wrong. Every year that passes, there are those that work harder and harder to rob you of this constitutional right. To ban a firearm that’s been around since the 1950’s, as if that will remove all the hate and violence from evil men’s souls.

Many of you (if not all of you) are disgusted to see how this country, which you so faithfully served, is being led to debt and ruin. Many of you have acquired a “**** it” attitude. I understand that rejection of society you may feel from time to time. The castration of our strongest and our best, the dissipation of Liberty. The corruption, the ********, the lies - but there is still one thing you can do.

Support the Second Amendment.
Buy America’s rifle.

Go to the range, shoot matches, and teach your loved ones to shoot. This sole task I delegate to you will pay dividends in our future. To fight the possibility of a full blown police state (or an utterly emasculated one)...to honor the memory of your gunslinging days. Most importantly, to protect your own life and the lives of all those in your humble castle. You owe it to yourself and to your country. It doesn’t matter what you choose, but buy the best quality AR you can afford. At the very least shell out the $100 bucks for a stripped lower receiver (the serialized part, and actual “gun”) and build YOUR rifle slowly one piece at a time. It's easy, many of your buddies are already doing this.

You were trusted with a machine gun when you were 18, but you can't be trusted with a semi auto carbine today? That’s ********. Defend what you value and believe to be true. You will be putting Americans to work, from metal workers and foundries, machine shops and truck drivers. Mom and pop gun shops to office workers for the gun companies. Fellow hard working Americans. I know a lot of you will blow this off, and that’s a damn shame. But if some of you see where I’m going with this, then it's worth the Scotch-induced rant. Go buy a rifle.
You are in your prep time.

Shooter ready?

-Slim out.

03-12-2014, 04:53 PM
Nice article! I would have to buy a m14 tho.

03-13-2014, 06:36 AM
Nice read. Been thinking about building my own AR for a while now since I don't have a rifle in my collection yet.

03-13-2014, 11:38 AM
Lance - check out Michigan Gun Forums - they have a lot of good rifles on there and good deals. That's where I am buying my AR this year.

03-13-2014, 03:50 PM
Lance - check out Michigan Gun Forums - they have a lot of good rifles on there and good deals. That's where I am buying my AR this year.I'm going to build one. I'm on the look out to see if MGO does there special edition lower again. It was nice stainless peice with the MGO and mitten logo.

03-13-2014, 10:38 PM
I carried a '60's model for four years. No forward assist, triangle hand guards. I also carried an M-15 side arm, an M-203 and an M-60 at times. Carried an 870 shotgun a few times and qualified on the M-2 and M-40 rifle but they were not my primary weapon. Man I put tens of thousands of rounds through my M-16 and M-60. I have a Bushmaster A2 now. I don't shoot it that much. I'm into trap and sporting clays these days.

03-13-2014, 11:01 PM
I really do want to buy an AR in the near future, but I have so many different things to spend on. I do have a handgun Glock 23, shotgun Mossberg 970 special, and rifle Reminging 870 30-06. The wife has her Bursa 380. I would love to get an AR in the 5.56 or 7.62 range. I, like Lance, would like to build my own. I have some friends here at work from my security days that do just that buy and build a lot of AR's for a hobby. I just have a hard time laying down $800-1500 for a weapon I won't be able to use that often, other than range target shooting. The shotgun and rifle I can hunt with, the handguns I can carry on a daily basis. I did love my time in the Army and all the weapons that I learned how to shoot. M9 Baretta, M2 50 cal(aka Mod Duece), M203 underbarrel grenade launcher 40mm nades, M16A2 normal assigned weapon, M14 carbine, M60 machine gun, M249 SAW, even got to shoot a LAW and the AT4, MK19 full auto belt fed grenade launcher. All fun weapons to fire and all very satisfying to tear shit up with. I loved it all and would love to own an AR, its just hard to justify the cost. However, I don't want to get shut out by the govt putting bans on the damn things.

03-14-2014, 07:45 AM
I just got a new lower for my 16 and a eo-tech for the M4. Buy the pieces where &when you can, and before long ya'll have a complete. The AR is easy to assemble. I have the wrench if needed.

03-14-2014, 12:17 PM
You can use an AR for deer hunting

Ultra AL
03-14-2014, 01:35 PM
You can use an AR for deer hunting

^ +1

03-14-2014, 03:43 PM
You can use an AR for deer hunting

Ya buy why? If i go west I use the .300 mag, up north I use a 30/06 and if it's tight brush my 8mm carbine. :sniper:

03-14-2014, 03:57 PM
What if you didn't have any other rifle and you hunted in the rifle zone? Why not use an AR? Then it is multi-purpose and I wouldn't feel so bad spending $1,500 on it. As a pure zombie apocalypse self defense home protection target rifle that is a bit steep.

03-14-2014, 06:45 PM
Can't use .22 cal on deer, unless something has changed.

03-15-2014, 10:55 AM
Can't use .22 cal on deer, unless something has changed.

On the DNR sight it's .22 cal rimfire and smaller. I looked because I thought you needed a .243 or larger too.

Out of all my firearms, if I could only have one rifle, it would be my M-1. If you run out of ammo you have one hell of a club. And I have an M-5 bayonet for it. If only one shotgun it would be my 10ga. Why? Because it's a 10ga.

Ultra AL
03-15-2014, 06:33 PM
I have a nice 30-30 Winchester that makes a pretty good deer rifle too.

03-15-2014, 08:52 PM
My favorite rifle round is probably the 30-30, .308, or 30/06 especially if were talking out of an M1

03-15-2014, 11:15 PM
Marlin 336 lever action (35 remington) for Michigan
Weatherby mark V (300weatherby mag) out west
Browning superpose lighting (12 ga) for birds
Springfield XDs 45 carry
Other hand guns, rifles and shot guns for cans
AR-15 & M-4 for fun

09-01-2014, 09:44 PM
Great article.
No military experience here. I bought an SKS back in 91, that's what my daughter uses to kill her deer. I have 2 American made firearms, a Sundance .25 made in California and an old Sears & Roebuck 12 gauge. Somewhere along the line I picked up a .38 revolver that was made in Spain. Ive had others but sold them just for the simple fact hat I never used them. I kept the carriers and the hunters.

09-02-2014, 10:21 AM
What if you didn't have any other rifle and you hunted in the rifle zone? Why not use an AR? Then it is multi-purpose and I wouldn't feel so bad spending $1,500 on it. As a pure zombie apocalypse self defense home protection target rifle that is a bit steep.


I've been around one or two. ;)

Mad Dog
09-12-2014, 11:53 AM
Do it while you still can guys! The time may be short.
They are on the move here in NY.


Ultra AL
09-30-2014, 10:57 PM

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Gas Man
10-01-2014, 11:27 PM

10-04-2014, 08:41 AM

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Pretty well sums it up for me. The fewer patriots that have or can carry firearms, the less safe we will be.

Of course I am not admitting to having any of these currently but....
Rem 740 Bushmaster 30:06
Sporterized German Mauser 7mm (major deer slayer)
Remington .22 semi
Mossberg 500 12ga
Single shot 20ga
Single shot 410ga
Knight 50cal black powder
Springfield XD 9mm
Ruger 380
Ancient 38 short 5 shot pistol
Beeman .17 pellet

10-06-2014, 08:13 PM
Stevens model 110 30.06 with 4x36 Nikon rifle scope zero'd and dead nuts accurate to 350 yards.
DPMS AR-15 with bayonet and quad rail system, red dot and open sights battle site zero'd 25 and 100 yards.
Remington .17 HMR varmint killer
S&W M&Pc .40 cause I carry everywhere.
Taurus Millennium 9 mm Luger back up
more ammo for each than I need (according to the ol' lady) and a son that reloads for me and shoots 3 gun matches.
God Bless America.