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Mudpuppy
01-03-2014, 10:47 AM
Well after finding out about the valve issue last year with the 06 now I am debating my next move. I have the following to consider:

2006
Valves = $1,200
Ohlins Suspension = $1,000
Slipper Clutch = $500

So looking at probably dumping $3,000 into the bike to get it where I want it. So I will have about $11,000 into it all said and done based on what I bought it for, what I put into it already and what I want to do.

2012 I can pick up for about $12,000 or a little less. It already has a slipper clutch. I would just fine tune the suspension for me. No worries about valves. Cross plane crank shaft (that alone is a major selling point for me).

Decisions. Eventually I am buying the 2012 anyways so now that I know the valve issue on the 06 I am swaying towards selling the 06 and moving into a 12. Really shit I'd like to have them both. I really love the 06. I just hate dumping money into something when it doesn't make sense - my friend once told me - "you want a race car buy a race car". Meaning as much as you want to take a non-race car and build it into a race car it will never truly be a race car - or anything for that matter.

2006
http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2006models/2006-Yamaha-YZF-R1-50thc.jpg


2012
http://images.freshnessmag.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/09/yamaha-YZF-R1-World-GP-50th-Anniversary-06.jpg

Bagger Dave
01-03-2014, 10:58 AM
Go for the 12!! :rockwoot:

Yeah...when I bought my HD in Oct of 12...I wish I could have kept my BD Chopper...but for me it was either one or the other....and I wanted to start doing trips on the bike....so out with the old...in with the new :lol:

Gas Man
01-03-2014, 12:06 PM
What would you get for your 06?

Larry64
01-03-2014, 12:46 PM
There becomes a point that no matter how much you put into the old one it will still not keep up with the improvements of the new. I learned that when I had a couple Ducati's.

skipper
01-03-2014, 12:48 PM
What would you get for your 06?

I don't know shit about these bikes but I know #s. NADA says around 5k for the old bike. I don't know all the upgrade etc so don't friggin shoot me.....I just needed something to work off of.

I wouldn't dump 3k into a 5k bike..............that is 60%.

I'd drop the 12k - minus the 5k for yours..........that puts you at about 7k outta pocket. Assuming everything else is equal in 8 years it'll be worth 5k (so you are sitting on this cash for some time which is what you are doing today anyway). You were going to spend 3k now anyway if you don't go new........assume that is fixed. So you have that 4k diff to make up over 8 years. That's $500 a year to be happy and have an 8 year newer bike.

horrorbusiness
01-03-2014, 01:10 PM
Traction control is nice , 34 more pounds than a zx 10.

Thruxtonbill
01-03-2014, 01:46 PM
Love the 12

Mudpuppy
01-03-2014, 01:52 PM
Yeah the traction control is bad ass along with the electronic control modes. The 12 is just so much more bike. But good point the $500 a year could go to mods, tires, track days, beer. All good things. And I absolutely love the 06. You can ask Bill. I would get between $5-$7k for the 06. I am just kind of pissed about the valve thing. If I would have known I would have held out a couple of years and just bought the 12.

Thruxtonbill
01-03-2014, 03:23 PM
Is the 12 a total redesign from the 11?

Thruxtonbill
01-03-2014, 03:44 PM
http://www.cycletrader.com/listing/2012-Yamaha-YZF-R1-110605540

Thruxtonbill
01-03-2014, 04:14 PM
Or you can throw caution to the wind and buy something really sexy
http://www.ttdetroit.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=47

Mudpuppy
01-03-2014, 05:12 PM
Is the 12 a total redesign from the 11?

No just 2012 is the 50th anniversary of when Yamaha got into Motogp so they did the red / white colors to commemorate. I dig the anniversary shit. And no I will only buy a 12 R1 if I get rid of my 06 R1. There is no debate. No discussion. The choice is simple 06 or 12.

junkyardjon
01-03-2014, 09:45 PM
this is a personal matter really. do you really like your 06 or is it just another bike?
if you really like it, keep it
if it's just another bike, sell it and get the 12

i have a couple bikes i will never sell and alot of people think i'm crazy for spending money on them.

RedneckMedic
01-04-2014, 05:57 AM
I say get the 12 because you'll have the cross plane crank which is part of what makes the r1 stand out to me. Plus even if you didnt have to worry about the valve issue its still a 6 year new bike so you'll have a bike that will last you longer.

Mudpuppy
01-07-2014, 03:52 PM
We shall see - I am torn. I do love the 06 so it would be hard to part with it. But this is about priority # 5 on my list so I need to take care of 1-4 first. And holy shit I saw that Can-Am side by side at the IMS and fell in love. So I might end up just keeping my current R1, which wouldn't hurt my feelings at all, put off the 12 for a couple of years and buy one of these motherfuckers: http://can-am.brp.com/off-road/side-by-side/maverick-max.html

Holy shit is that fucking sweet. I could use that for a variety of shit from going downtown plymouth for ice cream in the summer to silver lake sand dunes to up north national forest running, etc. It seems to me it should be illegal not to own one of these. And really the price isn't all that bad compared to RAZR and others that I don't think are half as good as this one.

RedneckMedic
01-07-2014, 03:55 PM
We shall see - I am torn. I do love the 06 so it would be hard to part with it. But this is about priority # 5 on my list so I need to take care of 1-4 first. And holy shit I saw that Can-Am side by side at the IMS and fell in love. So I might end up just keeping my current R1, which wouldn't hurt my feelings at all, put off the 12 for a couple of years and buy one of these motherfuckers: http://can-am.brp.com/off-road/side-by-side/maverick-max.html

Holy shit is that fucking sweet. I could use that for a variety of shit from going downtown plymouth for ice cream in the summer to silver lake sand dunes to up north national forest running, etc. It seems to me it should be illegal not to own one of these. And really the price isn't all that bad compared to RAZR and others that I don't think are half as good as this one.

The Can Ams are awesome. Kaleys parents have one and its a blast. They have the commander 800 which is the same as the maverick but it has a dump bed in the back. Runs about 60 mph and is great on the trails. The one down side to can am vs the razor is the seating postion is better in the razr.

Mudpuppy
01-07-2014, 03:57 PM
I definitely want to get a street legal dune buggy or something this year.

junkyardjon
01-07-2014, 09:21 PM
i always liked the side by sides but not the price. i have a street legal buggy thats fun to play with

RedneckMedic
01-07-2014, 10:06 PM
The buggys are fun but the side by sides fit down the 2 trackers better than a buggy or rail can.

Mudpuppy
01-08-2014, 10:25 AM
and I think, my opinion, the side by sides offer more function than a buggy. i.e. I could take to silver lake or on the national forest trails or to the desert in california. multi-purpose. the buggy just doesn't do all of that as well.

junkyardjon
01-08-2014, 07:21 PM
The buggys are fun but the side by sides fit down the 2 trackers better than a buggy or rail can.
not really but it depends on what SxS people get. VW based rails/buggies are only wider by 1-2 inches wider, over sized tires are another subject lol.

MUD, it's a personal choice about what works better for you, test drive every brand and use the shit out of it. the kids will love it, even the big kid driving it lol. SxS's are cool as hell but i love rails/buggies and they work better for me. my wife wants a 4 seater street legal sand rail so thats next on my list lol.

Mudpuppy
01-09-2014, 11:56 AM
Rails/buggies have soul - I do agree. And I agree - test it driving it like you stole it. IDK - but I really fell in love with that Can-Am SxS. I do love buggies though. I am getting some kind of buggy or side by side this year god damnit. Way too much fun to be having.