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Gas Man
08-19-2013, 09:44 AM
They have rolled out some impressive new items for 2014.

H-D.com
(http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Motorcycles/motorcycles.html)

Vented batwing
They have "Twin Cooled" 103 but no sign of the Liquid cooled heads (based on the much rumored design)
HID standard, LED on some models
ABS option is now a linked braking system
LEDs all around on tour pak
New bag design
Beefier front forks
New touch screen head unit, 5 more watts
Also I’m guessing the touring bikes now use the CAN BUS system that the softails went to – local area network like cars, low voltage, less wiring, more reliable, more diagnistics.


There is tons of info and pics on the HD.com site for the 2014's.

Pics like this to tease you
http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Media/images/2014-Motorcycles/touring/electra-glide-ultra-limited/gallery/large/14-hd-electra-glide-ultra-limited-4.jpg

I'm more excited about the USB and bluetooth options in the radio HERE (http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Motorcycles/electra-glide-ultra-limited.html#!keyFeatures)

But they've changed almost every part now. That is going to really slow down the aftermarket.

They also have a new saddlebag design with one hand opening operation.
http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Media/images/2014-Motorcycles/touring/street-glide-special/key-features/convenience/medium/project-rushmore-convenience-hd-kf854-a.jpg
http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Media/images/2014-Motorcycles/touring/street-glide-special/key-features/convenience/medium/new-saddlebag-design-hd-kf856-a.jpg

The vented bat wing doesn't look that good, but I'm sure it serves a great purpose for buffering and air flow to the rider.
http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Media/images/2014-Motorcycles/touring/street-glide-special/key-features/comfort/medium/new-fairing-reduces-head-buffeting-hd-kf845-a.jpg

I see ABS standard on the SG Special and both Ultra models.



They even changed the hand controls... WOW!!
http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Media/images/2014-Motorcycles/touring/street-glide-special/key-features/comfort/medium/standard-cruise-control-hd-kf65-a.jpg

Here's some dealer show pics I gathered
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/cjclark69/other%20bikes/2014%20HD/1157692_10152487676320663_1481174045_n_zps88ae71be .jpg (http://s99.photobucket.com/user/cjclark69/media/other%20bikes/2014%20HD/1157692_10152487676320663_1481174045_n_zps88ae71be .jpg.html)
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/cjclark69/other%20bikes/2014%20HD/998576_10152487678325663_1622436473_n_zps04d99350. jpg (http://s99.photobucket.com/user/cjclark69/media/other%20bikes/2014%20HD/998576_10152487678325663_1622436473_n_zps04d99350. jpg.html)
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/cjclark69/other%20bikes/2014%20HD/998286_10152487677030663_1275860004_n_zps6b618ba9. jpg (http://s99.photobucket.com/user/cjclark69/media/other%20bikes/2014%20HD/998286_10152487677030663_1275860004_n_zps6b618ba9. jpg.html)
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/cjclark69/other%20bikes/2014%20HD/534018_10152487701595663_1437307425_n_zps28c7930b. jpg (http://s99.photobucket.com/user/cjclark69/media/other%20bikes/2014%20HD/534018_10152487701595663_1437307425_n_zps28c7930b. jpg.html)
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/cjclark69/other%20bikes/2014%20HD/12648_10152487700425663_601794920_n_zps70cadb8e.jp g (http://s99.photobucket.com/user/cjclark69/media/other%20bikes/2014%20HD/12648_10152487700425663_601794920_n_zps70cadb8e.jp g.html)

The much changed dash layout. I love the phone pocket next to the radio and the touch screen radio. I wonder how much for the GPS option! YIKES! And are those the batwing vents in the bottom outside corners of the windshield where it meets the inner??


http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/cjclark69/other%20bikes/2014%20HD/Screenshot_2013-08-18-21-57-49_zps768b28c3.png (http://s99.photobucket.com/user/cjclark69/media/other%20bikes/2014%20HD/Screenshot_2013-08-18-21-57-49_zps768b28c3.png.html)

*all pics not on PB are property of HD


What else do you guys know or can share???

Gas Man
08-19-2013, 09:46 AM
The touring forks are beefed up to 49mm HOLY HELL!

Kosher
08-19-2013, 10:03 AM
They upped the compression ratio on the bikes with the new cooling system, which makes sense. Thats the upside of a liquid cooled bike. Also better cams, apparently, and likely tweaked the gearing as well.

Judging from the new hand controls they did indeed go to a CAN BUS architecture, which is great for HD (lower cost, fewer wires), and even for riders (more reliable), but it will further narrow the range of what independent shops can do because they require expensive diagnostic equipment.

sprink
08-19-2013, 10:28 AM
The road glide is no more?!?!

CnA
08-19-2013, 10:59 AM
They upped the compression ratio on the bikes with the new cooling system, which makes sense. Thats the upside of a liquid cooled bike. Also better cams, apparently, and likely tweaked the gearing as well.

Judging from the new hand controls they did indeed go to a CAN BUS architecture, which is great for HD (lower cost, fewer wires), and even for riders (more reliable), but it will further narrow the range of what independent shops can do because they require expensive diagnostic equipment.

Going to the CAN bus is a great improvement, but I hope they use standard OBDII codes/protocols and not some propriety Harley code. With OBDII, any standard automotive code scanner can be used. It also opens up the market to aftermarket handheld tuners.

Chain
08-19-2013, 11:05 AM
The road glide is no more?!?!

Nope.

http://cyrilhuzeblog.com/2013/05/02/harley-davidson-to-discontinue-6-models-in-2014-lineup/

Gas Man
08-19-2013, 11:17 AM
I see standard Hyrdralic clutch on all the FLH bikes. That's good and about time!

Box infotainment systems with the first original-equipment voice recognition and touchscreen for music, GPS navigation and phone in motorcycling, with quality audio, Bluetooth® connectivity, text-to-speech technology, plus support for intercom and CB communications in a single module. AMAZING and scary!!

Plus look at the redone tourpack. Completely different latches there too!! I can't wait to see the new saddle and tourpack bags.


But the thing with this twin cooled engine... no where does it say water cooled!

I love the new SG & Ultra rims... a nice lighter design as well!

Gas Man
08-19-2013, 11:22 AM
Nope.

http://cyrilhuzeblog.com/2013/05/02/harley-davidson-to-discontinue-6-models-in-2014-lineup/


Lots of good easy to read layout there... I was looking at that too!

Ultra AL
08-19-2013, 11:22 AM
Those wheels are sweet! I'm not sure I like the vent on the fairing, but that's more of an aesthetic issue than anything else. So the 103 becomes standard now. That's probably a good thing. What do you think about the ABS being linked? I hear both good and bad on that. All in all, I like em! Wish I could afford a new one of those bad boys!

Kosher
08-19-2013, 11:23 AM
The road glide is no more?!?!

Old news, they announced this spring the elimination of a few models, and no FLTRU/X for 20114. They attributed it to the tooling for the fairing being at the end of its useful life, and that they were working on a new Road Glide for 2015.

Gas Man
08-19-2013, 12:01 PM
Those wheels are sweet! I'm not sure I like the vent on the fairing, but that's more of an aesthetic issue than anything else. So the 103 becomes standard now. That's probably a good thing. What do you think about the ABS being linked? I hear both good and bad on that. All in all, I like em! Wish I could afford a new one of those bad boys!

Linked brakes is not new by any stretch. My bud Brandon's 2004 VTX 1800 has them, not abs linked but linked no less.

here's more info that Alhall sent me.

JSonline Article
(http://www.jsonline.com/business/harley-davidson-unveiling-eight-new-models-b9977387z1-220141861.html)JSonline Gallery
(http://www.jsonline.com/multimedia/photos/220142241.html)

Gas Man
08-19-2013, 01:34 PM
From Alhall

More pics on Fox6Now (http://fox6now.com/2013/08/19/pictures-2014-harley-davidson-model-lineup/)

derf
08-19-2013, 02:02 PM
Ok, so I'm new to this whole Harley world, and have only been riding one for a little over a month, but y 99 EGC looks exactly like the 2013 models, is based on almost the same design architecture, and looking at the 2014 lineup I just don't see any drastic changes. I mean for HD these are drastic changes, but compared to the rest of the motorcycle world they didn't take any real chances with drastic design changes.

Some of the stuff is almost necessitated by the fact that every metric cruiser and touring bike out there has a number of features that are fairly standard, or have been an option for years, ABS, in dash GPS/touchscreen radio, really good wind management, watercooled etc... The rest of the changes are just common sense, like the one handed saddle bag controls, new tour pack design, better engine management.

And what is with their website avoiding the words water cooled all together? Instead of saying it is a 1900cc water cooled engine, they use the name twin cooled instead of water cooled, then have two different engines in the 'glide' line, one for the street glide, one for the electra glide. And no road glide?

Am I the only one who thinks a drastic change would have been to introduce an all now touring bike designed from the ground up? Even a touring bike built off the Vrod would have been an incredible step.

Chain
08-19-2013, 02:54 PM
Ok, so I'm new to this whole Harley world, and have only been riding one for a little over a month, but y 99 EGC looks exactly like the 2013 models, is based on almost the same design architecture, and looking at the 2014 lineup I just don't see any drastic changes. I mean for HD these are drastic changes, but compared to the rest of the motorcycle world they didn't take any real chances with drastic design changes.

Some of the stuff is almost necessitated by the fact that every metric cruiser and touring bike out there has a number of features that are fairly standard, or have been an option for years, ABS, in dash GPS/touchscreen radio, really good wind management, watercooled etc... The rest of the changes are just common sense, like the one handed saddle bag controls, new tour pack design, better engine management.

And what is with their website avoiding the words water cooled all together? Instead of saying it is a 1900cc water cooled engine, they use the name twin cooled instead of water cooled, then have two different engines in the 'glide' line, one for the street glide, one for the electra glide. And no road glide?

Am I the only one who thinks a drastic change would have been to introduce an all now touring bike designed from the ground up? Even a touring bike built off the Vrod would have been an incredible step.

To the hardcore and NOT so hardcore HD fanatics, change is NOT good. It's the nostalgic factor. The history of keeping the "good ole days" alive. Harley Davidson understands this, and changes little, little enough its acceptable. (and it works, their still selling LOTS) Course this is my opinion... some may think else...

Hence the term "If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand".

derf
08-19-2013, 03:14 PM
No I agree, and that is why I resisted buying one for a long time. The only reason I bought one, even though I was looking for a touring bike (not specifically an HD) was that the price could not be beat for the bike/mileage/condition I was looking for. I understand exactly what HD is going for, they sell bikes based on their history and culture, not on actual bike technology and innovation. Watercooling is a big step, although I believe it has more to do with new epa rules and regulations about air pollution, and HD is eventually going to make all their bikes watercooled over the next few years tomeet the new emissions laws.

Ultra AL
08-19-2013, 03:46 PM
Linked brakes is not new by any stretch.

Yea, I know. But I haven't heard much about linked with ABS.

Gas Man
08-20-2013, 12:20 AM
Can anyone actually confirm water cooled?? I don't see it or a radiator anywhere!!

I think Derf and chain both have great points. I have always said, if you think HD cold design a gold wing then you're freakin stupid. They can but won't. This 2014 is a huge jump in a positive direction. I'm excited.

RedneckMedic
08-20-2013, 03:01 AM
Honestly this is the most impressive sound sustem ive seen in a bike i mean yamaha still has cassette decks. The liquid cooling is awesome. The new dash lay out will have to grow on me and so will the bag design. One handed opening is great but they look really rounded in the pics and i prefer more agressive styling.

RedneckMedic
08-20-2013, 03:15 AM
And i like the vent and think that air turbulence will be virtually non existant

Kosher
08-20-2013, 05:55 AM
Personally I think these evolutionary changes are good. I think the braking system has a lot of potential to be great - it will be interesting to hear real world stories. It appears to be pretty sophisticated and just to describe it as merely "linked" I think is oversimplification. There's a lot of different variations of how the system reacts, which could be tremendous or, if not done right could be pretty bad, but I think they've put a lot of thought and engineering into the design.

The new CAN BUS system is good for everyone except for independent shops. Way less wiring, lower voltage, tons more diagnostics.

The cooling system is interesting - on those bikes they've upped the compression, which you can do on an engine that has a cooling system, and it makes more power as a result. It will be interesting to see how well it works in practice. Most people will tell you that liquid cooled bikes still generate a ton of heat on the rider. The odd thing about this system is that its designed for bikes with lowers, if you believe that HD is eventually going to all liquid cooled bikes then they must have more up their sleeves.

The headlight changes are long overdue. A lot of people are saying that 5 extra watts on the sound system wont be that big of a difference.

The other good news that I just noticed is that there is a part that you can add to your outer primary that directs more oil at the comp sprocket. I'm sure I'll have to inform my dealer's parts guys of that fact. Its a lot of work to keep them educated.

Chain
08-20-2013, 09:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bur36bIn_4


Terrible audio, but you get the basics...

Gas Man
08-20-2013, 05:30 PM
I did see the info on the rad/water cooled thing is only bikes with lowers. My concern, and my bro's Kawasaki Vulcan voyoger is a example... it's fully water cooled and he said it's significantly hotter than my HD for him the rider.

Other concern here, in a crash like mine and medic's I bet that coolant system would have broke open and both bikes would be dead on the side of the road without more "engineering" and road side repair.

Further, there goes pulling your lower fairings in the hot months like I have done.

I'm with medic on I like and maybe don't like the new bags. I don't ever have a problem with the double tilt saddlebag lids, but man do some people struggle. :lol:

I love the new dash and audio system, especially the bluetooth and USB. The bluetooth if done correctly will allow you to listen to your phone audio on bluetooth, and have a bluetooth headset. Eliminating not only the wires but also the ugly plug on the dash of the Ultras.

The hydralic clutch will be a big advancement that I think is long over due as well.

The LED lights will put them in front of the pack on that, I don't know anybody besides BMW (with HID) that has LED headlights.

Also we should know from the past, these advancements in the FLH family usually trickle down to the other smaller bikes.

Gas Man
08-20-2013, 10:20 PM
For more pics and info

http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/08/20/2014-harley-davidson-project-rushmore-first-look-review-photos/?src=SOC&dom=fb

Chain
08-21-2013, 08:59 AM
Linky NO worky!

Gas Man
08-21-2013, 01:53 PM
Which link Chain? The last one just worked for me, I just rechecked it.

Chain
08-21-2013, 02:01 PM
Hmmm, it was broken earlier... It wouldn't come up... disregard, just got it to work.

Ultra AL
08-21-2013, 07:43 PM
It didn't take long. I see that Signature HD in Perrysburg, OH is already uncrating some new 2014 models!

GP-FLHR
08-21-2013, 10:24 PM
I think Harley Davidson did a great job on the 14's. Going up to our cabin this weekend on the bikes, I hope Gaylord HD has some 14's to look over.
'Chain' are you coming up with us?

Chain
08-22-2013, 09:19 AM
I think Harley Davidson did a great job on the 14's. Going up to our cabin this weekend on the bikes, I hope Gaylord HD has some 14's to look over.
'Chain' are you coming up with us?


Yes sir! Richie and I will be on our way later in the evening.

And Saturday we'd like to head up across the bridge, maybe to paradise and back... put a few hundred miles on, before hitting the barley pops.... ;)

Bagger Dave
08-23-2013, 02:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UnRfJAgRA0U

Denimblack
08-25-2013, 08:12 PM
Smokey Mountain HD had a few 2014 streetglides on display. I think they are smokin.. My favorite change they made was the bags. You can actually sit on your bike and open the bag one handed. Shoulda had that going a loooooooooooong time ago!

GP-FLHR
08-27-2013, 10:47 PM
Got the ok from my boss, 1 year from now a new 15 King. For the first and I'm sure the last time, I'm looking forward to getting a year older,15 King ya.