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CnA
08-10-2013, 10:55 PM
Took a ride to Dundee today, went Cabelas, and was turning on to 23 north, but my V-Strom would not activate the left turn signal for the center lane and it stayed red. Sat through 2 light cycles, then just turned anyway since the light would not turn.

Anyone know what the law is in MI about this? Some states allow it since they know the low metal mass of a motorcycle won't trip the sensors.

Ultra AL
08-10-2013, 10:57 PM
Same thing happened to me and my buddy a few weeks ago in Ann Arbor. We were at Huron River Drive and Dixboro. Waited through at least 3 lights before we finally went through. I'd like to know the answer to that one myself!

Gas Man
08-11-2013, 12:07 AM
Not sure about the law but I wait 2 lights and go. I don't give a shit what the law says.

Nobody
08-11-2013, 01:40 AM
Not sure about the law but I wait 2 lights and go. I don't give a shit what the law says.

Same, or I'll pull a "Michigan Left" as my out of state friends call it, and lane jump for a right turn then pull around in a drive or parking lot and do a left from there

Firetaz419
08-11-2013, 09:18 AM
Ill ask my cop buddies when they wake up and have their morning donuts :)

GP-FLHR
08-11-2013, 11:09 PM
I have done this maybe 7 or 8 times over the years. A cop would have to be a complete jerk to give a ticket for this, but some are. I would like to know if it's legal too.

Firetaz419
08-12-2013, 09:06 AM
Alright I talked to a few AHPD buddies and they said "as far as we know there is nothing saying you can't, but to check the Michigan Motor Vehicle Code that is posted online."

beeman07
08-12-2013, 10:49 AM
http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2012/12/traffic_talk_is_it_legal_to_ru.html

According to the article above, it wasn't legal in December of 2012 to run the light; but there is (was?) legislation in progress to change the law.

My MSF BRC instructors (one of whom was a retired cop) recommended running the light if it doesn't change in three or four cycles.

Mudpuppy
08-12-2013, 11:09 AM
it is legal now for a motorcycle to turn on red lights if it is an inductive loop. it's an inductive light - http://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-driving-safety/safety-regulatory-devices/question234.htm

http://www.wikihow.com/Trigger-Green-Traffic-Lights

Solutions:
http://www.thelightknight.com/
http://www.light-changer.com/
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=motorcycle+light+changer
http://www.bikerhiway.com/motorcycle-accessories-motorcycle-traffic-light-changers-c-520_9.html

Ultra AL
08-12-2013, 12:21 PM
it is legal now for a motorcycle to turn on red lights if it is an inductive loop. it's an inductive light - http://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-driving-safety/safety-regulatory-devices/question234.htm

http://www.wikihow.com/Trigger-Green-Traffic-Lights

Solutions:
http://www.thelightknight.com/
http://www.light-changer.com/
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=motorcycle+light+changer
http://www.bikerhiway.com/motorcycle-accessories-motorcycle-traffic-light-changers-c-520_9.html

That's some good info Mud! Thanks.

Mudpuppy
08-12-2013, 01:14 PM
Yeah I ran into this awhile ago - red light wouldn't change in Ann Arbor didn't think anything of it. Just ran the light eventually. Then I was at a parking garage in Ann Arbor and the guy said oh a motorcycle just go it's free because it won't trip the sensor. I said what sensor and he explained it and went on to say there are left turn lights like that too - then it all clicked. Saw on some other forums where people used the motorcycle light tripper. And now on like Ann Arbor (see a pattern here?) Road at Gotfordson and Ridge Road the actual light is inductive going north and south - due to majority of traffic going east and west.

Other trick I do in Ypsilanti where there is one at Superior and N Huron River Drive is I will pull up real far (like back tire touching white line) to allow a car to come up behind me and trip the sensor. That intersection ALWAYS has cars so haven't had to run it too much.

CnA
08-12-2013, 01:23 PM
it is legal now for a motorcycle to turn on red lights if it is an inductive loop. it's an inductive light - http://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-driving-safety/safety-regulatory-devices/question234.htm

http://www.wikihow.com/Trigger-Green-Traffic-Lights

Solutions:
http://www.thelightknight.com/
http://www.light-changer.com/
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=motorcycle+light+changer
http://www.bikerhiway.com/motorcycle-accessories-motorcycle-traffic-light-changers-c-520_9.html


I looked at the above referenced house bill 5848 it's showing it has not passed yet. Is there something else that passed?

Your solution links just show gizmos that may or may not actually work to trip the inductive sensors. From what I see, they are just magnets with a high price markup.

CnA
08-12-2013, 01:27 PM
Yeah I ran into this awhile ago - red light wouldn't change in Ann Arbor didn't think anything of it. Just ran the light eventually. Then I was at a parking garage in Ann Arbor and the guy said oh a motorcycle just go it's free because it won't trip the sensor. I said what sensor and he explained it and went on to say there are left turn lights like that too - then it all clicked. Saw on some other forums where people used the motorcycle light tripper. And now on like Ann Arbor (see a pattern here?) Road at Gotfordson and Ridge Road the actual light is inductive going north and south - due to majority of traffic going east and west.

Other trick I do in Ypsilanti where there is one at Superior and N Huron River Drive is I will pull up real far (like back tire touching white line) to allow a car to come up behind me and trip the sensor. That intersection ALWAYS has cars so haven't had to run it too much.


Pulling up further in the intersection so a car will trip the sensor works, but I personally don't like to do this. I try to stay back further in on a motorcycle at intersections just for safety reasons.

Mudpuppy
08-12-2013, 01:29 PM
I looked at the above referenced house bill 5848 it's showing it has not passed yet. Is there something else that passed?

Your solution links just show gizmos that may or may not actually work to trip the inductive sensors. From what I see, they are just magnets with a high price markup.

I thought I read it somewhere - guess I was wrong. Must not have passed yet. I haven't tried any of these devices. For $20 though if you are worried about inductive lights might be a good gamble.

Gas Man
08-12-2013, 04:42 PM
Mad Dog here sells these things that are suppose to make it work.

http://www.valueteckenterprises.com/

Mudpuppy
08-12-2013, 05:18 PM
Mad Dog here sells these things that are suppose to make it work.

http://www.valueteckenterprises.com/

I don't see them on his site?

Gas Man
08-12-2013, 08:47 PM
I didn't either but hopefully he'll speak up.

Mudpuppy
08-13-2013, 10:44 AM
I thought I remembered him selling it just couldn't find it on his page.

bombdog
08-13-2013, 11:18 AM
Wow Y'all are more patient than me I wait one cycle and go. I think it is Discrimination and was thinking of calling in Sharpton...

Ultra AL
08-13-2013, 12:59 PM
Wow Y'all are more patient than me I wait one cycle and go. I think it is Discrimination and was thinking of calling in Sharpton...

Maybe we could get him & J Jackson both to take up the cause. They aren't busy now that the Zimmerman thing is over, and they are always at the forefront of social justice. I think it's a racial thing anyway. We are being profiled by these sensors...

CnA
08-14-2013, 02:58 PM
Maybe we could get him & J Jackson both to take up the cause. They aren't busy now that the Zimmerman thing is over, and they are always at the forefront of social justice. I think it's a racial thing anyway. We are being profiled by these sensors...

My V-Strom is black, so they just might :)