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Kosher
07-30-2013, 04:26 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/30/opinion/watts-beck-guns-starbucks/index.html?hpt=hp_t4

Discuss...

Gas Man
07-30-2013, 04:57 PM
Both of those dumb ass clams needs to eat a bag of dicks

Ultra AL
07-30-2013, 11:11 PM
Let's ban guns from Starbucks because where guns already aren't allowed children have been killed. Yep, makes a lot of sense. NOT!

This is how it always seems to go. An inane argument gets media play because of how they 'feel' about this subject. The facts are, as far as I know, there haven't been any mass shootings at any Starbucks that I can recall. Where guns are already banned there have been several. So which system works better as the deterrent. DUH!

Mad Dog
07-31-2013, 08:48 AM
So the local gun store here, a privately owned store has at least 5-7 employees on the floor at any given time. Some open carry, some conceal but everyone knows that the employees are armed. Now this store does tens of thousands of dollars in business every day and a good deal is in cash. How likely is it for this store to get held up? Moms against guns? I think they need to be re-named Moms Against Reality.

Chain
07-31-2013, 09:27 AM
So the local gun store here, a privately owned store has at least 5-7 employees on the floor at any given time. Some open carry, some conceal but everyone knows that the employees are armed. Now this store does tens of thousands of dollars in business every day and a good deal is in cash. How likely is it for this store to get held up? Moms against guns? I think they need to be re-named Moms Against Reality.


I like that! But that would imply they have some type of grasp on reality, and less of an emotional quip... Ignorance IS BLISS!

Gas Man
07-31-2013, 09:45 AM
Starbucks is just stating that they are not above the law. Pure and simple. The local state laws allow for the open carry, so they do. Even in states that don't allow open carry, I bet they allow concealled carry.

Ultra AL
07-31-2013, 10:23 AM
The thing is, business owners have the right to decide what happens on their property. If they decide not to allow any weapons of any kind that's their exercising of their constitutional rights. And they aren't infringing on my constitutional rights if they make that decision. I don't have to (and won't) go to a business that won't allow me the option to protect myself.

I allow both open & concealed carry at my stores. It makes me safer, it makes my staff safer, and it makes my customers safer. These idiots that want to dictate to me, or to Starbucks, or to any business what they should or should not allow are full of hot air! If they want to be vulnerable, let them open their own gun free coffee shops. We'll see how that works out for them.

Caveman
07-31-2013, 11:10 AM
I have been into multiple stores that are anti gun and have the little slashed circle over the gun but as I carry concealed just shut your mouth go in conduct your business and no one is the wiser. Now, if something happens and you have to "skin that smoke wagon", well, then you will have some questions to answer. But, if I save a life, be it mine or some one else, then I will cross that bridge when I get there. I have an answer to your fear of the criminally insane and requesting the law abiding citizens to not carry;:fu2:

The retarded criminal wont give a shit about that sign and wn't keep their mouth shut, and won't care who they hurt in the commission of their crime, be it robbery or just flip out and kill a group of sheeple.

Thruxtonbill
07-31-2013, 11:49 AM
Is there really an organization called "mothers against guns"? If so I find the acronym ironic.

Mad Dog
07-31-2013, 01:34 PM
At least here in NY it is only a store policy to ban weapons. It is not a criminal offense. Now they can ask you to leave and if you do not comply you can be arrested but no store or business can make a law.

Hawgrider
07-31-2013, 01:37 PM
At least here in NY it is only a store policy to ban weapons. It is not a criminal offense. Now they can ask you to leave and if you do not comply you can be arrested but no store or business can make a law.But Bloomberg can take your guns away and tell you you cant have a Big Gulp from 7/11

Ultra AL
07-31-2013, 02:06 PM
At least here in NY it is only a store policy to ban weapons. It is not a criminal offense. Now they can ask you to leave and if you do not comply you can be arrested but no store or business can make a law.

It's the same way here. They can ask you to leave, and if you refuse, you are trespassing and can be arrested for that. The business aren't making laws, they are making their own decisions on store policies on weapons being allowed, whether concealed or not. If you don't comply with store policy, they can ask you to leave.

Ultra AL
07-31-2013, 02:14 PM
I have been into multiple stores that are anti gun and have the little slashed circle over the gun but as I carry concealed just shut your mouth go in conduct your business and no one is the wiser.

The only problem I have with that, Caveman, is that the business still profits in spite of the fact that you disagree with their policy. I do my best not to shop at businesses that restrict my ability to defend myself. I will admit, that is difficult to do, especially at the mall. So, I avoid the mall as much as possible, and when I do go, I follow your advice.

Here is a list of businesses in Michigan that prohibit weapons being brought in. I try to avoid each of these places and shop at ones which don't post those restrictions. You can see that American Jewelry & Loan (the Hardcore Pawn shop from TV) in Detroit is on there. Which I find ironic, cause I can definitely see the silhouette of a gun under Les, the old man's sweater in just about every episode.

http://www.mcrgo.org/mcrgo/d_no_gun_signs.asp


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Mudpuppy
07-31-2013, 03:14 PM
eat a fucking bag of dicks is right - what a piece of shit fucking article. Of all those gun deaths how many happen in places like starbucks and how many are legal guns? Go fuck yourself. Let's start a petition to keep guns in starbucks and reverse shocker those worthless cunts. Fuck that shit.