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Gas Man
03-03-2013, 10:12 PM
Ya know guys, I work on a bunch of bikes. And as I have gone along, I have found I needed some tools. Last year I spent about $1000 on tools and a new air compressor. $500 of which on the compressor, air/water filter, and hose reel. The other money was on some normal hand tools, but lots of specialty tools. I offer my help, my $1500 lift, tools, and time... not for money. I do this for the love of motorcycles, the brotherhood of biking, and my passion for it. Same reason I spend about $250 a year on this site and have yet to ask for a penny back.

People come to me for many reasons...


want to try it themselves, but want help
Don't know what to do, and know I can help
Are too scared to try
Believe in my saying "why pay somebody else to F up your bike when you can do the same for free".


Either way, they know that I will treat their bike as it was my own. Plus we ride together and know that I will be right there to help fix anything I can.

Well this year I'm starting to do these painted inner fairings... I have matched my fitted price to what Paul does them for, and that leaves me with about a $20-$25 "profit". That's it.

I've also thinking of enacting a $20 "lift fee". I don't care if it's a 2 hour oil change or a 10 hour set of bars. It's not about the money, and anybody that knows me, understands this. But I'm spending money all the time on these tools, and trust me it will cost you tons more at the dealer! I'm not making money off it, I'm spending it on tools, hence why I say it's a lift fee.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/cjclark69/Lift%20Wrenching/IMG_3089_zps54ce0ee3.jpg

What do you guys think? Reasonable?

Oh, but this fee doesn't get you out of buying food and beverages, as any man is responsible for when a buddy is doing them a favor. :lol:

Bagger Dave
03-03-2013, 10:18 PM
I think that is more than reasonable....I have always appreciated everything you have done for me...not just on the Harley....but on the Big Dog as well :dthumb:

Kosher
03-03-2013, 10:20 PM
Agree, more than reasonable.

Gas Man
03-03-2013, 10:38 PM
I'm tossing around the idea... I can't say I have had people not give me something. A gift card to a favorite place to eat... or money or something...

I'm not 100% sold on the theory.

RedneckMedic
03-04-2013, 12:15 AM
I like the idea. My favorite part about working on bikes at gas man's place is his wife makes awesome pie. We both also feel that if you cuss at something long enough it will work. I would pay way more than 20 since working on bikes with friends especially a buddy with a nice lift and tools is priceless. You the man Chris.

Moesride
03-04-2013, 06:13 AM
$20 being reasonable is an understatement !.......I've seen first hand ,like a few other of you guys have how Chris treats the bike projects that roll in his garage. Second to none and he knows his shit for sure!

Thruxtonbill
03-04-2013, 08:34 AM
I don't have $20 but my wife can give you a hand job.:lmao:

yoohoo
03-04-2013, 08:41 AM
Not to mention the meticulous documentary that ensures that every minute detail will be preserved in 8pm digial splendor, from the disassembly and careful layout and arrangement amidst the sparkling man garage, to each stage of every process involved in doing anything whatsoever to any object that requires the most obtuse attention in the known universe. Preserved for eternity for you exhaustive viewing pleasure, to share with the other 9 people on this forum.

TopShelf Scott
03-04-2013, 09:13 AM
20$ is more than fair Gas.....Especially if my work is saved in "8pm digial" must be something new..:lmao:

Gas Man
03-04-2013, 10:09 AM
I don't have $20 but my wife can give you a hand job.:lmao:
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/cjclark69/Posting/Slide16.jpg


Not to mention the meticulous documentary that ensures that every minute detail will be preserved in 8pm digial splendor, from the disassembly and careful layout and arrangement amidst the sparkling man garage, to each stage of every process involved in doing anything whatsoever to any object that requires the most obtuse attention in the known universe. Preserved for eternity for you exhaustive viewing pleasure, to share with the other 9 people on this forum.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/cjclark69/Posting/Not%20Funny/Yournotfunny.jpg

sprink
03-04-2013, 10:17 AM
I liked it better when there was one less on the forum.

leebo
03-04-2013, 10:23 AM
Maybe we are small but at least we are respectful.except for the occasional oddball!

Mad Dog
03-04-2013, 11:01 AM
You cheap bastard! Where do you get off charging buddies for help.:wtf::lmao:
Just messin with ya. Sounds like a fair deal to me....really.
You do have the wear and tear on your stuff and if it breaks it's yours.

Hawgrider
03-04-2013, 12:35 PM
Not to mention the meticulous documentary that ensures that every minute detail will be preserved in 8pm digial splendor, from the disassembly and careful layout and arrangement amidst the sparkling man garage, to each stage of every process involved in doing anything whatsoever to any object that requires the most obtuse attention in the known universe. Preserved for eternity for you exhaustive viewing pleasure, to share with the other 9 people on this forum.Well ya have to admit ......This is pretty FUNNY. But then again I have a twisted sense of humor.:lmao:

Mudpuppy
03-04-2013, 01:37 PM
I saw $50 is reasonable imo. You are spending a shit ton on the site and tools, etc. And then people use your tools and wear them out? You need to recoup brother.

Thruxtonbill
03-04-2013, 02:52 PM
Well ya have to admit ......This is pretty FUNNY. But then again I have a twisted sense of humor.:lmao:

I hate to admit that I agree, that sausage washer is funny.

Gas Man
03-04-2013, 07:27 PM
Sausage washer? Do they make such a thing?

Thruxtonbill
03-04-2013, 07:50 PM
Sausage washer? Do they make such a thing?

Ahhhh you've been married to long.

Gas Man
03-04-2013, 07:50 PM
10 years this summer

leebo
03-04-2013, 07:51 PM
41 for me today!!

Gas Man
03-04-2013, 08:15 PM
41 for me today!!

WOW!!! That is awesome!

05chop
03-04-2013, 09:21 PM
Now you need to put up a sign 40.00 more like it. But do not quit your day job just yet.

Moesride
03-04-2013, 10:13 PM
We just did my forks right, so before G man and I decided to do it I asked BB for an estimate on what it would take for them to take the forks off and put them back on.....$500!! not including any parts or powder. So I'd be looking at $600! No fucking way I'd do that. Chris isn't doing it for money that's for sure.

Gas Man
03-05-2013, 11:29 AM
I played with the idea... and I'm honestly not sure... maybe just have people do what they feel is right. It's never done me wrong yet.

Aaronkelly
03-06-2013, 11:17 AM
$20 being reasonable is an car parts (http://www.robustbuy.com/car-accessories-c-492.html) understatement !.......I've seen first hand ,like a few other of you guys have how Chris treats the bike projects that roll in his garage. Second to none and he knows his shit for sure!
$20 does not seems to bad deal. Is the offer still open?

Gas Man
03-06-2013, 11:40 AM
Aaron, what's up? What do you have going on?

Understand, this is not a biz. I don't take in bikes for repair. I don't have drop offs. I do it to hang with the boys and enjoy the motorcycle world.

bombdog
03-06-2013, 01:07 PM
Sure sounds more than fair to me my only question would be "What kinda Beer you drink?"

Gas Man
03-06-2013, 05:39 PM
That's a given isn't it? LOL

NateNasty
03-06-2013, 06:29 PM
Well guess I can't afford to take bike over brother in laws to get work done, or at least he starts stocking metric speciality tools. Lol

Gas Man
03-06-2013, 07:08 PM
I got metric tools brother!

Now go see your own thread I have about you!!

Bagger Dave
03-06-2013, 07:22 PM
Well guess I can't afford to take bike over brother in laws to get work done, or at least he starts stocking metric speciality tools. Lol

NASTY!!!! what up!:rockwoot:

NateNasty
03-06-2013, 08:03 PM
Hey bud, love your new bike she lookin sweet. Can't wait to look at it in my rearviews. Lol

NateNasty
03-06-2013, 08:08 PM
Yeah I'm still trying to figure out how to navigate all this forum jaz

Bagger Dave
03-06-2013, 08:09 PM
Hey bud, love your new bike she lookin sweet. Can't wait to look at it in my rearviews. Lol
cool Nasty! Thanks :dthumb: yeah...I have no problem riding in the back....my bike is probably too loud for ya anyways! :lol: :eightball6:

Gas Man
03-06-2013, 11:24 PM
Yeah well boys. Nasty has a newly improved exhaust himself. I can't wait to hear it.

bombdog
03-07-2013, 01:33 PM
I just got my exhaust last week hope to have it on the bike in a week or two. Cant wait to hear it.

Gas Man
03-07-2013, 01:42 PM
Gotta loce that idea!

Kosher
03-07-2013, 01:43 PM
I just got my exhaust last week hope to have it on the bike in a week or two. Cant wait to hear it.

What did ya get?

bombdog
03-07-2013, 02:09 PM
I got Dragos 2:1 Black I am waiting for them to come out with 2:1:2 but I think its gonna be a while so I got these for now. also getting the Power Vision.

Gas Man
03-07-2013, 03:25 PM
Damn these tools!! I have a buddy who needs his forks serviced on his sporty. I was going to make some adapter or somin to use my 41mm slider on the 39mm forks.

F that... I don't need the $68 :bash:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000GTY6QO/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Mudpuppy
03-08-2013, 11:04 AM
I need to change out my fork fluid. can I reserve a spot on the lift for early spring?

Gas Man
03-08-2013, 11:13 AM
Yeah... we can do it!! It seems like forks is about all I do lately... I have 2 more sets already in the works.

What mm forks are on the yammy?

Mudpuppy
03-08-2013, 11:23 AM
no idea bro. I can look into it. I just want to do it before I do my first track day or serious backroads ride this year. I have some electrical fucking bullshit I need to tidy up before I can do the forks but I will be ready as early as next month? I did the forks on the R6 and Twisty helped me but I forget how to do them. I have a front stand if that helps - triple tree version so you can remove the forks. I could use your assistance and will bring red meat to grill and beer to burn up your brain cells.

Gas Man
03-08-2013, 12:44 PM
yeah we can get er done. A fork is a fork. It's just getting the thing in the air and I have yet to have a sportbike on my lift yet. So we'd have to figure how to suspend the bike. I have a sears bike jack if that helps but again, I simply don't know. I do not have my tripple jack anymore. Sold em after I sold the rocket. I now wish I would have kept em, but oh well.

You would obviously want to get a fork rebuild kit as well, so you have new seals & bushings.

Mudpuppy
03-08-2013, 01:10 PM
ok sounds good. probably looking @ mid-april

Mudpuppy
03-08-2013, 01:15 PM
so just the seals? http://racetech.com/ProductSearch/2/Yamaha/YZF-R1/2006

bombdog
03-08-2013, 01:21 PM
I was told changing my fluid would help my bike out as well its a little soft.

Gas Man
03-08-2013, 01:54 PM
ok sounds good. probably looking @ mid-april

ok


so just the seals? http://racetech.com/ProductSearch/2/Yamaha/YZF-R1/2006

Looks like Your forks are 43mm.

How many miles? What if the bushings are bad when we get them apart?


I was told changing my fluid would help my bike out as well its a little soft.

if you change oil and/or oil weight it can help.

bombdog
03-08-2013, 02:35 PM
Yes the bikes brand new some friends told me to change the weight.

Gas Man
03-08-2013, 02:36 PM
Yeah it can change the way the forks work. What bike again?

bombdog
03-09-2013, 09:47 AM
Yeah it can change the way the forks work. What bike again?

Road Glide Ultra 13 I traded in my Dyna Low Rider it was a good decision but I still miss my Dyna.

Kosher
03-09-2013, 10:06 AM
Ah yes, the legendary Harley front end dive. At some point I'll change my forks and get some sort of drop in springs.

Gas Man
03-09-2013, 01:40 PM
Road Glide Ultra 13 I traded in my Dyna Low Rider it was a good decision but I still miss my Dyna.

Yeah the best thing for you is to just skip all the rest of it and put the $400 progressive nitrogen drop ins.

BuckHunter
03-09-2013, 09:26 PM
Damn these tools!! I have a buddy who needs his forks serviced on his sporty. I was going to make some adapter or somin to use my 41mm slider on the 39mm forks.

F that... I don't need the $68 :bash:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000GTY6QO/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Bless your obsession with tools lol. cant wait to dig in to this project!

Gas Man
03-10-2013, 02:19 PM
Yeah thanks you COCK. :lol:

That being said, you might have me into buying a wheel bearing tool kit as well. Wishing I would have done that now when I did my wheel bearings... oh well. This way, if we do your wheels, I can practice on your wheels, being I've never done em before. :lol:

Gas Man
03-10-2013, 02:23 PM
And to the original reason in this thread...

I have decided against the $20 lift fee... I have kicked around the idea of like 1/4-1/2 the cost of a speciality tool (if needed for the job)... or... leave it the way I've always done it. I've never gotten dealt badly and the guys usually know what the costs would be if they went to the dealer. They've always taken care of me...

But as I look at the costs of say the wheel bearing tools ~$200 for the kit from George's. I have to recoop some of those costs... The dealer charges 1/2 hour /$50 per wheel when you roll just the wheels in. Probably double that if you bring the the entire bike.

So then what... I have heard of guys doing 1/3-1/2 the dealer costs for jobs... but I'm not in it to make money... just recoop tool costs which at my rate are going up fast with these speciality tools.

IDK....

leebo
03-10-2013, 02:53 PM
Know what you mean chris just finished a frame for a poster for a friend and just chargin for costs.

BuckHunter
03-10-2013, 06:25 PM
Yeah thanks you COCK. :lol:

That being said, you might have me into buying a wheel bearing tool kit as well. Wishing I would have done that now when I did my wheel bearings... oh well. This way, if we do your wheels, I can practice on your wheels, being I've never done em before. :lol:

you know I'll hook u up. and ive got no problem being the test dummy. Im sure everything will work out fine.

Gas Man
03-11-2013, 07:58 AM
I'm not worried about you bud!

bombdog
03-11-2013, 10:04 AM
Yeah the best thing for you is to just skip all the rest of it and put the $400 progressive nitrogen drop ins.

Yep already put Progressive 944s on the back should have just done it all at once. I have never touched the forks so I was a little leery to do them. I did the 944s but that was simple stuff.

Mudpuppy
03-11-2013, 11:24 AM
And to the original reason in this thread...

I have decided against the $20 lift fee... I have kicked around the idea of like 1/4-1/2 the cost of a speciality tool (if needed for the job)... or... leave it the way I've always done it. I've never gotten dealt badly and the guys usually know what the costs would be if they went to the dealer. They've always taken care of me...

But as I look at the costs of say the wheel bearing tools ~$200 for the kit from George's. I have to recoop some of those costs... The dealer charges 1/2 hour /$50 per wheel when you roll just the wheels in. Probably double that if you bring the the entire bike.

So then what... I have heard of guys doing 1/3-1/2 the dealer costs for jobs... but I'm not in it to make money... just recoop tool costs which at my rate are going up fast with these speciality tools.

IDK....

Dude so why the whole 10 page thread? just charge the $50 lift fee and be done with it. everyone said they would pay it.

Gas Man
03-11-2013, 02:23 PM
Simple enough bomb... we could have it torn apart and put back together in 4-5 hours tops

bombdog
03-11-2013, 03:25 PM
Simple enough bomb... we could have it torn apart and put back together in 4-5 hours tops

Thanks might take you up on that. Also if you ever need a 2003 Dyna or 2013 Road Glide shop manual I have both just give me a holler!

Gas Man
03-11-2013, 03:46 PM
No problem Bomb!

Bagger Dave
03-12-2013, 10:33 AM
just charge the $50 lift fee and be done with it. everyone said they would pay it.

Yep yep! X2! :dthumb:

Mudpuppy
03-12-2013, 03:44 PM
at least someone is fucking paying attention..

Bob
03-12-2013, 03:49 PM
Forgot one.


People come to me for many reasons...



want to try it themselves, but want help
Don't know what to do, and know I can help
Are too scared to try
Believe in my saying "why pay somebody else to F up your bike when you can do the same for free".
Tickle Fights



I think that is a good idea, the fee not the tickle fights.

Mudpuppy
03-12-2013, 03:52 PM
[COLOR=#333333]Forgot one.



I think that is a good idea, the fee not the tickle fights.

lol - pay the lift fee and get a free gasman makeover while he tickles your bungholio..

Gas Man
03-12-2013, 05:29 PM
Damnit Mud... told you not to tell anyone about the bungholio crap!!

Mudpuppy
03-13-2013, 03:53 PM
oh and we dress up like pirates

junkyardjon
03-13-2013, 11:10 PM
i'll wear my new leathers then. sounds like a good time

Gas Man
03-13-2013, 11:31 PM
:rofl:

Ultra AL
03-22-2013, 08:07 AM
And to the original reason in this thread...

I have decided against the $20 lift fee... I have kicked around the idea of like 1/4-1/2 the cost of a speciality tool (if needed for the job)... or... leave it the way I've always done it. I've never gotten dealt badly and the guys usually know what the costs would be if they went to the dealer. They've always taken care of me...

After meeting with GasMan the other day, it's pretty clear that he isn't the best guy to go into business with if you want to make any money! He does this for the love of the bikes and the people who ride them!