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Bob
03-13-2012, 03:03 PM
I ended up buying a S&W J-Frame this weekend and though I have not shot it yet I love this freaking gun. I carries so well and I forget I'm even wearing it. I can't wait to go shoot it this week. A buddy of mine bought it a year ago and only put 5 rounds through it so it's like a brand new gun. I'll most likely be selling my CZ Rami soon too if anyone is interested.

Mad Dog
03-13-2012, 06:34 PM
Cool Bob! What model is it. I have the 438 with a shrouded hammer. It has become my main carry gun.
Small, light with a .38+P.:dthumb:

Bob
03-13-2012, 07:31 PM
It's the 642, .38 spl as well.

Mad Dog
03-13-2012, 08:16 PM
Thats a nice revolver Bob. And don't let anyone tell you snubbies don't shoot.
Shot a 73 or a 76, not sure which from 50 feet.
It takes a lot of practice(Oh Darn!)but you can learn to shoot these.
When you do you will be better with any other handgun you discharge.
This is from an article I found on the web that explains sight radius.

"Moving to the kinds of guns that most of us shoot, there are some specifics that influence our ability to hit or make groups with the piece. The normal, middle-ground barrel lengths range from four to six inches. This length neither greatly adds to nor detracts from our ability to make hits. A pistol or revolver with a four-inch barrel or equivalent sight radius is on the ragged edge of giving us trouble. Below that we can allow ourselves some increased group size at any range. The greatest shooting teachers are the otherwise-standard short-barrel revolvers. These are the two- and 21⁄2-inch-barrel guns. While they are extremely accurate, these guns’ short sight radius makes proving that accuracy very difficult. Making hits with the snubbies forces us to double our emphasis on the sights as well as the trigger release. Where a modest error with the normal barrel lengths might move a shot an inch or two at 25 yards, the same mistake with a short barrel will easily miss the paper. If we add barrel length to the norm, hits become easier. The 71⁄2- and 83⁄8-inch guns are comparatively just plain easy to hit with. All other factors being equal, a shooter might expect to reduce his grouping with a four-inch gun by half when shooting one of the long-barrel arms. Substitute a 10-inch tube and we start to have the “rifles” of the handgun world. They are unwieldy to carry but offer a sight radius that makes hitting relatively easy."
A Link To The Full Article.
http://archives.gunsandammo.com/content/practical-handgun-accuracy

Gas Man
03-13-2012, 10:37 PM
I'm really thinking of getting a Rouger or S&W revolver... concealed hammer and probably 38 special... Just don't feel like pushing out the $600.

Lrider
03-13-2012, 10:50 PM
I would never buy a Smith & Wesson, I still remember how those SOB's sold out to the Clinton Adm. & the anti gunners. For those of you who don't, google it. Buy a Ruger if you're in the market for a wheel gun, SP 101 357 great little concealed carry pistol, will handle any load you throw at it. Screw S&W....JMO

Bob
03-14-2012, 10:38 AM
I'm really thinking of getting a Rouger or S&W revolver... concealed hammer and probably 38 special... Just don't feel like pushing out the $600.

You should be able to get one a lot less than $600. I paid 1/2 that and got some ammo and a holster.

Mad Dog
03-14-2012, 11:35 AM
I'm really thinking of getting a Rouger or S&W revolver... concealed hammer and probably 38 special... Just don't feel like pushing out the $600.

Chris, my S&W model 438 was $425 at buds guns with free shipping. I have the shrouded hammer. I like this cause you can still cock it and it won't snag.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r84/Valueteck/SW438.jpg

Gas Man
03-14-2012, 09:55 PM
Good info Lrider...

Don that is what I wanted... shrouded hammer and all.

telecast
03-15-2012, 02:45 PM
I would never buy a Smith & Wesson, I still remember how those SOB's sold out to the Clinton Adm. & the anti gunners.


Good info Lrider...

Here's better info. The sell-out he's referring to happened in 2000, when S&W was owned by a British company (no surprise) called Tomkins PLC. In 2001 it was sold to an American company called Saf-T-Hammer out of Arizona.

Having said that, I'd still rather own a Ruger.

Agreement of 2000[/URL] [URL="http://www.twowheelmichigan.com/wiki/File:Flickr_-_~Steve_Z~_-_S_W_K22_7.jpg"]http://bits.wikimedia.org/skins-1.19/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://www.twowheelmichigan.com/wiki/File:Flickr_-_~Steve_Z~_-_S_W_K22_7.jpg)

In March 2000 Smith & Wesson was the only major gun manufacturer to sign an agreement with the Clinton Administration (http://www.twowheelmichigan.com/wiki/Clinton_Administration).[4] (http://www.twowheelmichigan.com/#cite_note-guvpr-3) The company agreed to numerous safety and design standards, as well as limits on the sale and distribution of their products. Gun clubs and gun rights groups responded to this agreement by initiating large-scale boycotts (http://www.twowheelmichigan.com/wiki/Boycott) of Smith & Wesson by refusing to buy their new products and flooding the firearms market with used S&W guns.[4] (http://www.twowheelmichigan.com/#cite_note-guvpr-3)[5] (http://www.twowheelmichigan.com/#cite_note-sw1-4)[6] (http://www.twowheelmichigan.com/#cite_note-gufo-5) After a 40% sales slide,[7] (http://www.twowheelmichigan.com/#cite_note-kdm-6) the sales impact from the boycotts led Smith and Wesson to suspend manufacturing at two plants.[8] (http://www.twowheelmichigan.com/#cite_note-7) The success of the boycott led to a Federal Trade Commission anti-trust investigation being initiated under the Clinton administration,[6] (http://www.twowheelmichigan.com/#cite_note-gufo-5) targeting gun dealers and gun rights groups, which was subsequently dropped in 2003.[9] (http://www.twowheelmichigan.com/#cite_note-8) This agreement signed by Tomkins PLC ended with the sale of Smith and Wesson to the Saf-T-Hammer Corporation. The new company (Smith and Wesson Holding Corporation), which publicly renounced the agreement, was received positively by the firearms community.[10] (http://www.twowheelmichigan.com/#cite_note-GunWeek-9)
[edit (http://www.twowheelmichigan.com/w/index.php?title=Smith_%26_Wesson&action=edit&section=4)] Acquisition by Saf-T-Hammer

On 11 May 2001, Saf-T-Hammer Corporation acquired Smith & Wesson Corp. from Tomkins PLC for US$15 million, a fraction of the US$112 million originally paid by Tomkins. Saf-T-Hammer assumed US$30 million in debt, bringing the total purchase price to US$45 million.[11] (http://www.twowheelmichigan.com/#cite_note-swsold-10)[12] (http://www.twowheelmichigan.com/#cite_note-bizj-11) Saf-T-Hammer, a manufacturer of gun locks and other firearms safety products, purchased the company with the intention of incorporating its line of security products into all Smith & Wesson firearms in compliance with the 2000 agreement.
The acquisition of Smith & Wesson was chiefly brokered by Saf-T-Hammer President Bob Scott, who had left Smith & Wesson in 1999 because of a disagreement with Tomkins’ policies. After the purchase, Scott became the president of Smith & Wesson to guide the 157-year-old company back to its former standing in the market.[7] (http://www.twowheelmichigan.com/#cite_note-kdm-6)
On 15 February 2002, the name of the newly formed entity was changed to Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation.

Bob
04-01-2012, 06:40 PM
Love this gun. Went to the range yesterday and shot it for the first time. I am amazed at the accuracy of this small .38. I was very impressed. Went in figuring it would be so so as far as accuracy but was shocked at how well it shot.

Mad Dog
04-01-2012, 06:44 PM
Yup, mines a real good shooter too.
Practice up with that baby and the rest will be cake!