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Gas Man
12-19-2011, 10:57 PM
and a salesman's mistake. :poop:

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-bizarre/us-biker-sues-harley-in-abs-light-case/19709.html#ixzz1gzy5wjhy

Nobody
12-20-2011, 12:16 AM
The defence lawyer went on to say: "There's nothing odd or unique about a non-ABS bike having ABS. If the icon doesn't light up when you start the bike, anybody should know you don't have ABS." The defence have laid the blame squarely at Wilson's door, saying: "He should have known the bike's features after riding it for 15 months and 12,000 miles."


I hate lawyers, but I have to agree. Hell man, I knew all my sporty's quirks after only 1 or 2k on the odo. This is just more fuel for my rant against adding in extra shit on bikes, it makes people get lax in the brain and careless. Just because the bike (or car) has ABS doesn't mean you should stomp the break in a panic and rely on it to take care of the rest.

rant rant rant, froth froth froth I am an angry cappuccino

Mad Dog
12-20-2011, 12:01 PM
Statistics have shown that the more safety equipment a vehicle has the more risk an operator will take.
Go Figure......

Gas Man
12-20-2011, 12:18 PM
I don't want to get into the debate on abs or not. I for one love it.

But why in the hell is HD responsible for the fact that your bike did NOT come with ABS yet you thought it did. That's not HD's fault.

junkyardjon
12-20-2011, 07:59 PM
what caused the accident? who else was involved? theres alot of info missing from this story. the rider is a dumb shit and so is the lawyer. their just looking to blame somebody and get some money.
every automobile manufacture better take notice too if they win...

Gas Man
12-20-2011, 09:34 PM
update


In ABS Light Case, Woman Sues And Loses Her Case Against Harley-Davidson (http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2011/12/20/in-abs-light-case-woman-sues-and-loses-her-lawsuit-against-harley-davidson/) Published by Cyril Huze (http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/author/cyrilhuze/)



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It was an interesting legal case because jury decision could have affected production for many motorcycle manufacturers. Background: In 2009 Judy Wilson, 50, was riding on the back of her husband 2008 Road Glide when he crashed and she suffered severe brain damage. She joined her now estranged husband in a lawsuit against Harley-Davidson where both claimed that the Harley had a defective design because the tachometer was featuring an ABS icon that made them think that the Road Glide was equipped with anti-lock brakes when it didn’t.

Testimony of husband Jack Wilson was that he used the rear brake on the motorcycle thinking it had an ABS system when traffic backed up on him on the freeway. The brakes then locked up and sent the bike into a slide, throwing his wife to the pavement. His argument was that by putting an ABS icon on the tachometer, Harley-davidson suggested that the Road Glide had ABS brake. He also claimed that the HD dealer salesman who sold him his bike gave him an elbow-to-the-ribs-type aside and said ‘chicks love ABS security’.

http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/ABSbrakes3.jpg (http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/ABSbrakes3.jpg)
As a matter of fact ABS is offered as an option on Road Glides as a part of the ‘Security Package’ including H-DŽ Smart Security System. Attorneys representing Harley-Davidson explained that the manufacturer puts this icon on all his models where ABS is optional to be certain that bikes that do have anti-lock brakes system will definitely have the accompanying light. They argued that there is nothing odd or unique about a non-ABS bike having an ABS icon. “If the icon doesn’t light up when starting the bike, anybody should know you don’t have ABS.” They also stated to the jury that it’s common practice for manufacturers to include the ABS icon for all of its bikes even if they don’t have the system because it is more costly and complicated to use different parts when they make the different bikes. After a full last weekend deliberation the jurors decided that the Road Glide tachometer doesn’t bear a design defect in the form of the ‘ABS’ icon and exonerated Harley-Davidson of any responsibility for the crash.

Moesride
12-20-2011, 10:47 PM
Anyone that rides a bike hates to here about another rider getting hurt, period!! regardless of there knowledge or LACK OF. When it comes to two wheels, you really need to know what your straddling. YOU are responsible for knowing your motorcycle! Doesn't matter if the salesman gives you a thumbs up, high five or a whatever assuring you that you have ABS, perhaps just to make a sale. Or maybe he was just misinformed on the bike he was selling as an honest mistake. You need to know your bike top to bottom. We all know we take a risk when we ride. To hold HD Liable or attempt of is Bullshit! Horrible that someone has been hurt but now the Money Hunt!! :idk:

Gas Man
12-20-2011, 11:53 PM
I agree moe. It's sad that she's injured but it's not the moco's fault. I wonder if it was bought new or used.